Letters
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This page contains your letters, comments, memories
and hopefully some of your photos of Lisle's past.
This isn't set up as a forum but it should be a great place to
escape to every now and then.
Thanks for your contributions.
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A Letter From Mr. Corso!!!
7/12/05
I
think your Remembering-Lisle web site is truly brilliant.
Although I never grew up or even lived in Lisle, Lisle was
most certainly home for me during the 34 years (1970-2004)
I was a language arts teacher and then assistant principal
at Lisle Junior High School.
Prior to my retirement last year, I had mixed feelings about leaving
this wonderful community. Then I accepted a part-time position
in the education department at Benedictine University and suddenly
realized I would not be leaving Lisle after all.
Once again, I wish you continued success as you carry on this wonderful
web site venture.
Warmest regards to you and all my former students,
Frank T. Corso
(R.L:
Wow! I can't believe this! A letter from Mr. Corso! After how many
years and we get an email from Mr. Corso!
Well thank you so much for writing to us here at Remembering-Lisle...
Thank you for all your years of service... And thank you for your
sense of humor. So many of us have great memories from your classes
at Lisle.
Oh, and here's something interesting. When I tried to "spell
check" this email, it kept getting hung up on your last name...
Try it... It keeps suggesting "Coors" instead of Corso.
Oh, and did you know that many of us called you Mr. "Ozz-rock" behind
your back?... You know, that's "Corso" backwords! (There...
Now you know...and now I have closure after all these years.)
Okay! I'm still weird!
Any way... Great to hear from you Mr. Corso and we all hope to
hear from you again!
May God bless! )
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Chuck
Mackey
7/4/05
I came
upon this site looking for material for my parent's (Dale & Barb
Mackey) 50th Weeding Anniversary. This sure brought back
a lot of memories and good times. Well done!
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Jay Grochowski
LSHS class of 1977
Mike and
the R-L website,
Heard about the site from one of my siblings. What a great spot
on the web.
All four of my grandparents came to Lisle in the early 1930s
so the nostalgia generated on this site is often a topic of conversation
at family get-togethers. I love reading the letters and the "remember
whens"
Thought I'd mention a couple of my favorite Lisle legends and
their associated stories.
There used to be a restaurant at the corner of Ogden and Devon
called Tree Gables. Seemed like a fitting name for a bar and
sandwich joint in the Arboretum Village. Well, legend has it
the owner, I believe his name was "Buddy" and wife
Clara, didn't have trees in mind when they ordered the sign for
their new restaurant shortly after taking ownership. The sign
maker spoke with Buddy over the phone to take the sign order.
Since the building had a gabled roof over each of the three doors,
Buddy decide to name his establishment "The Three Gables".
But in the grand tradition of the heavy Chicago accent, spoofed
on such shows as "Saturday Night Live", Buddy told
the sign maker that the big sign would simply read " The
Tree Gables" (as in one, two, tree.)
When a rather large, erroneous sign showed up one day promoting
The Tree Gables and their famous "Chicken in a Basket",
a deal was struck for a discount, and a Lisle legend was born!
Legend number 2 has to do with a rather prominent American and
his day in the Lisle jail. Seems J. Dennis Hastert got himself
into a little altercation with one of Lisle's finest over the
Yorkville HS sophomore football bus being blocked by a police
barricade set up along the homecoming parade route. J Dennis
tried to explain that without the Foxes there is no homecoming
game, but Lisle's finest wasn't going to budge. The third most
powerful guy in the country then took it upon himself to move
the roadblock and order the bus to move on. That little move
landed J Dennis in the pokey and created a frantic search for
Carlin Nalley to come down to the Lisle holding cell and clear
up the situation.
Again, these are a couple of our local legends. Can't swear to
their authenticity, but they make for good laugh. Anyway, I hope
others continue to write, it is a great site Mike. Keep up the
good work.
(R.L:
Jay! Your letter is so in keeping with the type of stuff we
are looking for here at Remembering-Lisle... Great
STUFF!)
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"Linebacker"
6/26/05
Hey
I just read your site on Benet Academy and as a student there
i actually have a few stories to tell. First one happened
to me my sophomore year in a class room located on the third
floor of Benet hall on the west side of the building. I was
sitting through a lecture on WWII looking for something to
quell my boredom when i looked out the window to the fourth
floor of St Joseph Hall. When looking down at me i swear
I saw a young boy about the age of four or fiveish older
than a toddler but younger than a preteen. He was wearing
some sort of a hat i had seen in the movie the newsies. I'm
not sure the date of the style of clothing but it defiantly
isn't something I've seen around here well ever except in
movies. Anyway I was staring at this boy for around 30 seconds
when i went to get my friend alec to see if he saw the same
thing, but when i looked back the window was empty and dark.
Last year I traveled up to that floor (fourth floor Joseph) for
an English class and i felt like this weird feeling that someone
was looking over my shoulder but no one was there. I know that
these experiences don't seem like much but they prompted me to
look for any other occurrence like mine, and i was wondering if
you knew of any, or any possible stories that could be related.
It was this search that sent me to your site. Thank you
P.S. when did you make the trip to Benet Academy (spring, winter,
fall, of what year?)
(R.L:
I was there in April '05... just before writing the article)
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"Paul
H."
6/26/05
Hi,
I was once employed by the Lisle News Agency on Burlington near
the railroad depot in 1965-1967. On Friday nights and early
Saturday morning several of us teenagers would stuff Sunday
Tribune papers. The agency was run by a Mrs. Ford. I was reading
your other website material. I do recall sometime in 1966 on
a Saturday when a girl was hit by the Nebraska Zephyr while
crossing the tracks.
Do you have a copy of that news article?
thks,
(R.L:
No Paul we don't... Wish we did!)
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Pat
Burkhalter
6/26/05
I grew up in Lisle from about 1952
through 1969. Four Lakes was just a cow pasture then and
we went sledding on the hills in the winter. I remember
dragging home a pile of cow bones, totally convinced that
they were dinosaur bones. Doesn't anyone remember Mrs.
Stair? She was my second grade teacher at the old Main
St. School. I believe she went on to become a principal
of the school when Miss Schiesher retired. She had a ceramic
squirrel on her desk (Chippy). On Fridays, when we went
out to recess, we would return to find candy treats on
our desks from Chippy the squirrel (if we had been good
all week) I can still see the hop scotch diagrams that
were painted on the school yard play ground. I can remember
getting the polio vaccines at the Main Street School in
the early 50's. When Schiesher School was first built,
the land around it was just fields. We used to walk Indian
style from Maple Avenue to get to school through the tall
weeds. Then they started building the model homes on the
north side of Maple. We used to walk through them on our
way home from school.
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A
letter From a St. Joseph's Orphanage Alumni!
Joseph
A. Hlado
5/15/05
Just
visited your web page RE: "Mysteries of Lisle."
My name is Joseph A. Hlado & I was raised at ST. Joe's Orph
from 1941 thru 1954 (ages 3-15 yrs old). Some of your photos brought
back memories I will never forget, I.E., the old cemetery, chicken
farm, water tower, ETC...). I knew that place like the 'back of
my hand' while
I was there. I worked at the chicken farm & knew a couple of
people buried at the cemetery, Mark Henn for one. Father Novotny & Father
Philip ran the place during my time there. Father Cosmos replaced
Father Philip around 1949, if memory serves me correctly.
Man, do I have stories of ST. Joe's.
As far as St. Joe's being haunted, my opinion is that is all a
load of "Bullcrap", if you'll excuse that expression.
Hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Joe H.
(R.L:
Wow!! Thank you Joseph for contacting us!
I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that we would love to
hear more about the days at St. Joe's from someone that actually "grew
up" there! I've read so much... I've seen so many pictures
and postcards... I've visited the land marks... But you, Joseph,
are "real" and bring it all to life! I know it sounds
dumb but I think its pretty cool!
As far as the "haunting's" are concerned? The "Mysteries
of Lisle" article was written because I simply wanted to look
into the "stories" I had heard as a kid and then later
while doing research. The article draws no conclusions. But I have
to say it was very interesting doing the research.
Thanks again Joseph for contacting us and please don't be a stranger!
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Megan
S. Dickey
6/14/05
Does
anyone remember the accident in 1979 that involved Jaime
Dickey. Remember, she drowned in her family's home pool but
survived? I would like people to remember this accident.
Doesn't anyone wonder how she is doing? Does anyone even
care about what happened to this 1 and a half year old child
that drowned in her pool but survived? I am Jaime's older
sister and I remember that very day. Maybe instead of being
upset about building demolitions, one should ask themselves
about human beings and the real-life stories behind them.
My sister's condition resembles that of the recently deceased
Terri Schiavo. Isn't my sister worth mentioning in your website?
I too, lived in Lisle until I was 21 years old. I also attended
SJA, St. Joan of Arc, along with most of my twelve siblings.
Why not concentrate on what the church did for the people
rather than the building that held the people? Maybe it is
time that your website portrayed the history of the people
rather than the building landmarks and their importance.
It is a good idea but has bad facts on it. Get real and talk
about Lisle, instead of the bricks and concrete that hold
Lisle's buildings together.
Sincerely, Megan S. Dickey
(R.L:
OK?)
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Pam
(Smith) Zielinski
6/12/05
I
love to keep checking on the site. You're doing a great job!
This is in response to Kevin Kraft. I do remember the Kraft
boys. Kurt was in my class that graduated in 1969. I had
to laugh when Kevin mentioned Mrs. Borg. When I think of
her I always think of Kurt Kraft. I was behind him in the
lunch lines one of the times I was brave enough to eat hot
lunch. I don't remember what was served, but Kurt asked what
that stuff was. Mrs. Borg flew off the handle totally and
said he was never to refer to her food as stuff again! I
felt so sorry for him, but I'll bet he never did that again!
You mentioned Mrs. Lockhart (actually is Lockett). She is
living in California with my cousin Sherry and her husband
and I'll be sure to say hi. I know she enjoys checking the
site also and is tickled with her "fame".
Val, Scott and Steve say "hi" back and the Geislers are
all fine too.
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Scott
Stupay
McLean, Virginia
7/12/05
What
a great web site!
My grandparents Anthony (Tony) Stupay (First or Second Mayor of
Lisle) and Catherine Stupay owned the Lisle General Store and Soda
Fountain that later became the Lisle Coffee Shop.
My father Robert (Bob) Stupay worked at the store and soda fountain
while he was in high school in Lisle, I think he must have graduated
from high school in the mid 1940's. My aunt Ann Stupay (Cusick)
and uncle Ralph Stupay graduated a few years after my dad.
I remember visiting Lisle in the early 50's and 60's. My cousin
Tom Cusick and I spent a week one summer cleaning up all the trash
that had accumulated in the vacant lot next to the Ben Franklin
store so we could set up a mini baseball diamond. I have great
memories of eating at the Dog and Suds, and my first sip of beer
with my grandfather at the tavern that was somewhere at the end
of Main Street when I was about 8 or 9 years old!
What a tragedy that the stores and buildings on Main Street are
being torn down! I have seen so many towns successfully re-develop
their old buildings into highly successful areas where people actually
want to go to shop, places with character, charm and a sense of
history!
If anyone has any photos or memorabilia of the old General Store
and Soda Fountain (or the building next door that was next to the
vacant lot next to the Ben Franklin) they can share that would
be great!
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Dan
Murashige
Class of 80
Mrs. Homan's 8th grade class,
Reading Mrs. Homan's letter brought back a specific memory.
On January 9th, 1976, one of my first classes of the day.
Mrs. Homan started our class by writing 1,9,76 on the chalk board
and started the class saying, "Today is the only day that
will ever be written 1-9-76." Her comment was intriguing and
was probably the first time I realized how significant each individual
day of our lives are.
Good to see comments from many people I knew in Lisle with many
overlapping memories.
Mike Buchman! I hope you see this.
It has probably been almost 30 years since seeing you. I remember
afternoon street hockey in your parents driveway (remember Teddy
Baxter)? the 73-74 White Sox Richie Allen, Wilbur Wood, Pat Kelly,
Eddie Herman... you were also a big fan of that team.
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Mary
McManus
7/8/05
Hello,
Whoever
you are - thank you so much for putting all this Lisle stuff
together. News of it is going through my family like wildfire.
They are scattered now throughout the country altho some
are here in Illinois not far from Lisle. I am delighted that
the Book Nook is still there. This summer we will probably
take a trip to Main Street and, of course, stop at the Book
Nook.
Regards,
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Terry
McManus:
Scottsdale, AZ
7/8/05
Oh,
man. So glad I heard about this Web site!
I have incredible memories of growing up in Lisle. I'm still great
friends with Elizabeth Hudson. She and I used to hang out with
a pack of kids, including David Burba (still in touch with him,
too), Paul Spokas, Judy Rinella, Janet Sandison and Eric Danielson,
among others. In fact, I'd love to hear from Paul, Judy, Janet
and Eric. (See my lost and found entries.)
In
winter, a lot of kids would sled ride from Lisle High down
into our backyard. We had some thorny bushes that made the
entry a little hairy! We also played hockey in a makeshift
rink behind the high school near the Schieser (sp?) school.
One time, my brother Brian had me start a fight with a kid
who was kind of a bully, then Brian stepped in and pounded
him. What a moment!
During
the warm months, because the yards were all connected and
unfenced, we had great football or Frisbee games. We also
played a lot of baseball in the high school field.
The
Burba family was incredibly generous with its swimming pool.
They were the only family in the Oak View neighborhood that
had one, and believe me, we took advantage of it. Thanks,
Bernie and Carol! You were really cool. I'll never forget
the sign on your fence: "We don't swim in your toilet,
so please don't pee in our pool." You know, basic politeness.
We
also climbed trees and built forts in the woods that ran
behind Jonquil. Were those called Tate Woods? If so, I never
knew that.
David
Burba and I now live fairly close to each other and we always
reminisce about Lisle when we get together. It's great because
sometimes he'll bring up some incident that I had completely
forgotten about, or thought I had only imagined.
The
Hudson family was also wild and fun. Too many memories to
get into now, but Donna, Ed, Jim, Pat, Mary, Cathy, Elizabeth
and Ellen, the McManus family loves and misses you.
Bye
for now.
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Judy
Smith Lopez
6/4/05
Just read the stories about the ghosts on the tracks and at the
old orphanage and I recall a story about the railroad tracks. I
remember my mom telling a story about someone in town who was very
upset. This man took his young daughter with him to the tracks
to do away with himself and his daughter. The daughter survived
but lost one leg and the father was killed. I do not recall the
first or last names of this family, but I do recall attending Naperville
High and the daughter was in several of my classes. I remember
her as very shy and withdrawn kept to herself, yet she was a really
nice girl.
So I wonder if possibly the ghost might be the father. I was very
small when I heard this story and I am 64 now so that was a very
long time ago, but I remember the story because is shocked our
entire sleepy town. It just wasn't something we believed could
happen in Lisle.
Should anyone care to contact me my address is ejpez@wmni.net.
I would love to hear from anyone.
I also have another little story about Mrs Borg the head cook for
my mom Rose Smith. Mrs Borg used to make meatballs in celery soup
and I have the recipe and make them for my family today. They truly
enjoy this tasty delight.
Keep up the good work..sure is fun to dig back into my memory and
recall such a great town to grow up in...
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Patti
Lacy
6/1/05
Hi!
My name is Patti Lacy, and I am writing a book which peripherally
involveds a Lisle resident in the 50s, 60s.
Do you have any information on:
how trash was disposed of at that time
what railways serviced the area.
Thanks so much for your time!
(R.L:
If anyone wishes to respond, send your info. to lisle@cox.net and
I will be sure to foreward it on to her.)
RESPONSES:
Pat (Smith) Tranter:
6/3/05
As far as I can remember back in the time I lived there 1939-1963
we didn't have a lot of trash. Most of us had 55 gl. barrel oil
drums and we burned it. Then I believe in the 50's we may have
had a pick up of trash periodically from another town. I just don't
remember Lisle ever having a trash pick up service.
Edward R Wright
6/5/05
I remember weekly garbage pickup in the 50's. We did indeed burn
anything we could. We had a separate can for those things that
I would have to take out into the backyard and burn on Saturday
before I could go out and play. As far as garbage service was concerned,
the father of a friend of mine was one of the collectors. After
it was collected, I don't know what happened to it. I don't remember
any talk about where the dump was.
Pat Burkhalter
6/26/05
I moved to Lisle in the very early 50's to what was considered
unincorporated Lisle (south of Maple Ave) I remember we always
took our trash to the dump on Maple Avenue between Lisle and Naperville.
It was on the south side of the street. I'll bet there are some
beautiful homes setting on top of that dump now.
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Kevin
Kraft
Victorville, Ca.
5/31/05
Greetings
To All, My name is Kevin Kraft class of 1975. Great web site
and letters, seeing the photo's and reading everyone's memories
of Lisle, is great it chokes you up. I used to live on North
Main St. across from Standard Oil and KINGS Palace, were
every Friday and Saturday night was like NEW YEARS EVE. I
remember the Petry's, the Grunst family across the creek
from them, the Chiapetta's. The photo of the bridge is at
the dead end of Lacy st, played there a lot. The one thing
that remains constant in most memories I've read was Mrs.
Lockhart and Mrs. Borg she really put the fear into every
kid. I left Lisle in 1977 for the military (US Navy) in California,
I retired and currently live in the high mountain desert
on the way to Las Vegas. I'd like to say Hi to Val and Pam
Scott and Steve Smith and there cousins the Giesler's Rex,
Diane. Feel free to give out my email address if asked for,
I sure would like to walk the streets of Lisle once again.
I hope the Kraft Boys
( Kenneth, Keith, Kurt, Kevin) left some memories behind.
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Ted
Garringer (LCHS 1966)
Hagerstown, Maryland
5/31/05
Re: The "Lisle
Mysteries" page.
Thank you for taking the time to investigate and post this story...
Sincerely,
Ted Garringer
(R.L:
Well thank you Ted for the visit! By the way, be careful out
there on that bike!)
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Jill
(Gebhardt) Hamrick
5/31/05
Lisle
memories - wow. I remember the bad water, the quarries where
guys would go skinny-dipping where the passengers on the "Q" could
see them (!), the skinny Post Office on Main, ice skating
on the DuPage at night behind my friend's home; ice skating
all the way to the Arboretum (which was free to visit then);
La Bianco's at Burlington and 53 where you could be sure
to hear your favorite juke box song again and again; the
OLD one-lane humped-back wooden bridge over the DuPage on
Burlington; the crumbling Ogden Avenue bridge over 53; Hanson's
Foods where you could pay your electric bill and get free
light bulbs if paid on time; the Ben Franklin; the cemetery
east of town that had many 1830's tombstones from a smallpox
or flu epidemic; the large southeast corner at Main and Ogden
that was all peonies and how pretty they looked when blooming;
the building of the "new" grade school at Schwartz
and
Middleton (?) and the building of the Interstate right behind it;
the carnivals on the VFW lot; train schedules, walking to high
school when the temps were down to (actual) -20 degrees (what snow
days?); being the first 300 kids in the high school and choosing
the team name and writing the lyrics to the school fight song (that
was me); the huge old barn at Yackley (Yender?) that was written
up to be the "first barn west of Chicago"; the old post
cards; the little wooden cottage behind the grade school that was
used for special classes; the speed of the semis coming down Ogden
Avenue.
And so much more . . . .
(R.L:
Jill... Thank you for sharing your wonderfully simple yet awesome
memories of home!
When I read about you guys writing the Lisle Lions "fight" song,
I remembered that I had found an old Lisle band uniform up in an
attic.
(I'm not sure if I should identify the attic or not...) Anyway...
I snapped a picture of it just sitting there... up in an attic
stored away.
Kinda like our memories of it all, it's fun to just drift back
and visit every now and then.
I think the picture says it all...)
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Greg's "BIG" Question...
Greg Lindsey
5/2/05
Dear
Remembering-Lisle webmaster(s):
Incredible
site. I have been looking for something like this for a while.
Although I grew up in Lisle between 1979 and 1995, I was
always fascinated with its rich history. Here's my question,
though: it's very obvious that Lisle's downtown area has
steadily deterioriated over the past twenty years (if not
more). If the current "revitalization" efforts
are a bad idea, what else could be done to bring new growth
to the area without destroying Lisle's distinct character?
This isn't meant to be a rhetorical question or anything
-- I am honestly
asking, because I have no idea myself.
Anyways,
keep up the good work!
GSL
(R.L:
Greg then follows up with a second email below)
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Greg
Lindsey
5/2/05
Just a
followup on my last email:
You might
be interested in the attached Village of Lisle newsletter,
which outlines the change the village is planning to make
to Main Street. I find it really ironic that there was a
big celebration in Lisle when the widening of Main to two
lanes each way was completed... only to have them plan to
change it back now! The original idea of widening the street
was to increase traffic flow to the downtown area; unfortunately,
it only served to increase traffic flow *straight through*
the downtown area! Main became an
alternative to Route 53 for commuters, and nothing more.
Another
plan that has been thrown around has been to demolish the
building directly west of School Street (currently occupied
by the Yerbabuena restaurant) and extend School all the way
to Route 53 -- creating more room for storefronts. I think
this is a good idea in theory, but time will tell if the
village proceeds with the plan, and if so, how well they
do it.
Why does
Lisle feel they need to make every storefront look exactly
the same, I wonder? Naperville and Downers Grove both have
downtown areas that brilliantly reflect the varying building
styles of the last five decades, and yet they flourish wonderfully.
If Lisle continues in the vein it is now, though... it will
just become another subdivision of Naperville.
A final
note: I wonder if you might remember a green two-story farmhouse
at the corner of Main Street and Short Street, just south
of Riedy Road? That house, 5033 Main Street, was my great-aunt
and uncle's house from the 50's to the early 80's, before
my family purchased it, and my mother still lives there to
this day. It is now surrounded on almost all sides by enormous
McMansions.
GSL
(R.L:
Greg,
Your first email raises the "64 thousand dollar" question.
What should be done. Well greg... The third paragraph of your second
email reflects mine, and surprising to me, hundreds of other "lisleites" opinions
as well. As you stated, there are many suburban towns that have
allowed their original buildings to keep their old charm. And look
at those areas today... Beautiful! (And making MONEY!!)
Why Lisle feels they need to cover up (or demolish) our old buildings
is a question I'm not sure I'll ever understand.
However; I do feel that the trees that were planted uptown look
wonderful! I kinda' like the idea of making Main Street narrower
as well. More "pedestrian inviting" sounds great too
but don't cover or "rip out" the original buildings.
For heaven's sake! Those are ties to our past.
They make the town "feel" like a town and not
a strip mall. Strip malls come and go with the changing wind...
These old buildings reflect real history! Maybe not Civil War history
or "Colonial" history... But it does hold a bit of OUR
history! Maybe that isn't too important to those that have moved
to Lisle in the latter years... But never the less, it is important
to a lot of people that grew up there.
Just look at them... These buildings have a thing that some "city
planners" just don't understand.. Character!
Where is the creativity here???
If it's just the bottom line we're concerned with then screw it!
Let's just bulldoze the whole thing and build a Wal Mart! Then
we can just soak up the wonderful tax profits and play that ever
popular game "Look out for falling prices!!"
......sorry... i didn't mean to yell...
Greg? You pose a great question and I agree with your observations.
So many other towns have found a way to make it work... So can
Lisle.
Anyway,
Oh, by the way Greg... I'm glad you brought up the original widening
of Main Street!
Here are some pictures from the days when Lisle was widening Main
Street.)
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Here
are some shots of the "widening" work being
done uptown.
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Here
is a close up of the same shot.
LOOK!!! There's The Book Nook and, of course, there's a kids
bike parked in front! (Probably buying baseball cards or
sneaking a "peak" at the magazine rack!) There's
Economy Foods!!!
Now face it... This web page ROCKS!!!
Where else are you going to see this stuff??? (Sorry... I
digress)
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Here
is some more construction being done in front of the
Book Nook. And I bet there is a bike or two parked
right behind that truck too.
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Here
is a "Homecoming Day Parade" photo from 1967.
Notice the two lane road going through town. Some people
now refer to the current downtown Main Street as the
big "landing strip."
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If
you get a chance, you have to read this article from
the early '60s about times changing in Lisle. It
mentions the "complaints" about the street
widening any many other cool things about our town.Written
by Lisle history queen Marilyn Cawiezel.
Click
here and enjoy!
*Oh, make sure you expand the article with that little
button that appears on the lower right when you drag your
mouse over the image. Use it to zoom in allowing you to
read it.
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Jack
long
5/2/05
Re: Dispensa's Castle of Toys: I remember going to the Sky Hi drive
in theater at rte 83 and roosevelt road, and to County Line
pizza which was just outside the entrance and then moved to
Roosevelt and the 294 toll way. This corner became an ice arena
next door to Dispensa's. I've lived in lisle since 1980 and
grew up in elmhurst.
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Chip
Buss
Lava Hot Springs, Idaho
WWW.WHITEWOLFRECREATION.COM
5/16/05
Hey,
You have built a totally cool site. Very nice job.
My brother called me and told me I had to check it out because
I was in one of the pictures (At the Lisle Coffee Shop.)
Sure enough, Anna Lee & I hanging out at Irv & Laura's
Coffee Shop. Wow, I loved that place. Onion Rings and playing "Sittin
on the Dock of the Bay" on the juke box. Once I had a car,
I'd hit the Coffee Shop in the morning, go to school, duck out
of school, hit the Coffee Shop, go back to school, duck out again
and go back to the Coffee shop. I'd be in there 3 or 4 times a
day on a good day.
Again, I sure enjoy this site and I'm back checking out what's
new every of couple days. Keep it up!
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Robert
(Bob) Recktenwald
4/28/05
I
grow up in Lisle, well not completly up, we moved to Arkansas
when I was
12 years old. I often make it back to Chicago on business and I
always haveto drive through the old town. Your site is fantastic!
I remember a lot of the things that you highlighted on this site.
I lived behind Susie Houha growing up, she was a good friend of
my aunts. You make mention of the "Burning of the Witch" that
is one of my fondest memories. Walking around that huge fire, waiting
for someone to tap me on the shoulder so I could advance to the
next round of costume finalist. I remember another nieghbor of
ours, Bill Kubes, was always involved in that great event.
Thanks again for putting this great site together for people to
remember the past.
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This
is Judy (Smith) Lopez
Pat (Smith) Tranters sister
Previously of Prescott, Az
Currently Klamath Falls, Or
5/9/05
Where to start..I guess on Center St was our first house. The cemetary
was in our back yard, the 66 Station to the north and of course
the Congragational Church where I was Baptised. I remember having
a pony when I was very small and he'd get loose and visit the kids
on the school grounds at the Main Street School. Or often times
my mother would recieve a call and the pony was looking in the
old IGA store window, which was owned by the Sevensons and later
by the Hansens. I completed grade school at the Main Street school
and Miss Schiesher was still principal and still scaring the heck
out of all of us kids.
Later my parents built a home on Yackley Ave. It was a gravel road
and had a nice hill just in front of our house. All the kids in
the neighborhood spent lots of fun winter days sliding down the
hill. Of course it made the hill twice a slick and most adults
trying to drive up the hill weren't happy going sideways to get
to Ogden Ave. Oh well we had fun anyway.
I remember attending Naperville High my freshman year and the next
year all us kids came home to our own High School. I recall
voting for the name of our team..Lisle Lions..and it took
everyone in the school to make things work. There were no lines
drawn between the high class seniors and low life freshman..we
just didn't care we were so glad to get home and in our territory.
The football team wore used uniforms cause we couldn't afford fancy
clothes for them.. I remember Harold Hansen was a really big kid
and the coach didn't have a large enough size for him. Needless
to say his football pants split and by the end of the game were
taped together to avoid over exposing him to the croud. Dispite
all the handicaps we won most of our games and by the end of the
season all team members had new uniforms to wear that fit.
We had sock hops, beebops, homecomeing, yearbooks, petty coats,
chevy cars, glasspacks and all that jazz. Anyhow we were the first
to set the mark, for our new High School and I wrote the Lion Tales
colum in the newspaper.
Oh there are so many more memories and the one I long for the most
is one more bite of LaBiancos pizza it was the
best ever.
What a great site and I haven't even gotten through most of it
yet. Keeps me busy and off the street and out of trouble.
Thanks for the Memories
J.R.S. Class of 1960
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Pat
Smith
Prescott, AZ
5/5/05
I
live in prescott arizona now and a friend of mine that I
went to school with in lisle sent me this wonderful web sight.
Just had to write and let you know how much I appreciated
reading this. I went to lisle public school, first grade
through 8th then to Downers Grove for high school.
My
son attended school in lisle too. We lived there a long time.
I lived there from 1939 to 1963. I can remember going to
dances, funerals, and weddings at the catholic church. I
was not catholic, but we were all family and friends.
Shame
on lisle for letting the church come down. I was there in
2002 and amazed at the changes. The old depot, my old public
school.
And yes, I have memories of the fireman dances at the VFW. That
was one of if not the big event every year. Sure was fun. We could
polka, waltz, do the mash potatoe. Those were some fun dance parties.
I
went to main street school 1st grade through 8th grade. Mrs..
Whirle was my st grade teacher not sure of the spellings
on these teachers. Miss Schiesher was the principle. She
would make you shake in your boots. Pounding on the window
with her keys when someone was playing to rough on the playground.
Or writing 500 times I will not................... On your
lunch hour.
My mother was rose smith she managed the lunch room from about
1951 until 1962 (appox) yes, I remember Mrs. Borg.
My dad was on the school board for many years, rex smith. My sister
Judy went to school there too. After graduation she went to Naperville
h.s. i went to d.g. h.s.
I was back in lisle in 2002 for my 50th high school class reunion.
My goodness, the old school is gone and i went in and told the
young receptionist i had gone to school there. She looked at me
like I was really really old (which i guess i am) or looney. What
fun it was in lisle growing up. I am so glad i was there in those
years, Reidy's woods, ice skating in the arboretum, free outdoor
movies on the ball field across the street from the school. I was
so lucky to have been able to live there back then. No fear of
anything. Stayed out till dark and played hide a seek.
Was a great life.
Thanks for the pictures
Pat (Smith) Tranter now living in Prescott AZ
I was Pat Smith, daughter of Rex and Rose Smith.
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Fran
Noetzel
5/2/05
Rosie's last name was Harr. She was
eccentric, but had a very colorful life.
Before Lisle Coffee Shop it was Stupay's general store and soda
fountain. I worked there when I was 13 years old.
I graduated from Main Street School, got married at St. Joan of
Arc and had my wedding at the old Lisle VFW. We had 500 guests.
Lots of history and the people who knocked down the old buildings
lived here a short time and do not appreciate small town life.
We use to have Christmas programs on Main St., street dances, carnivals
and bingo at the carnivals, free movies on a lot on Main St.(which
later moved to where the parking lot is at the Depot.
I go back to the 1940's and my husband goes back to the 1930's.
His grandparents home was a German restaurant on Burlington Ave.
Al Capone use to eat there, when he came out to go hunting.
Rosie
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Norman Oil Update..
Paul
Petry
4/27/05
In regard to the Norman Oil station photos (SEE ORIGINAL EMAIL
BELOW from Lisa (Buss) Martin.)
That's not a "gas tower" in the background. It was a
stand-up flourescent light fixture that had different colored tubes
inside and lettering on the glass lens that said "MOTEL." There
was a white wooden fence bordering the Norman Oil property (you
can see a pice of it in the photo), which was there long before
there was a Norman Oil, with the light fixture on the end, next
to Ogden Avenue. Those fixtures were on the corners of the driveways
for the Lisle Motel, which used to occupy the NE corner of Main
Street and Ogden Avenue (the Blue Bird bus used to stop in front
of the motel - you could ride it back and forth to Chicago for
cheap). The Lisle Motel was long-gone when that Norman Oil photo
was taken. At that time, it is likely that corner was occupied
by Dale & Harry's Phillips 66 service station (owners: Dale
Rice and Harry Lockhart - Dale Rice is still alive. Harry was married
to the sweet lady who many of the Lisle old-timers remember served
as secretary for Main Street School, Mrs. Lockhart). That Citgo
sign was also a later addition. For a long time, there was an old
Cities Service station on that corner. It was torn down years ago.
Dale & Harry's 66 was located for years next to the old Lisle
Cemetery, across the street from the Congregational Church, until
they moved sometime in the late 1960's or early 70's to the corner
of Main & Ogden. Anyway, those light fixtures, and the old
wood fence, were never torn down when the motel was demolished
and remained as silent witnesses to what once was - a part of old
Lisle, gone forever. I'll bet that even those old light fixtures
are gone now.
Cities
Service Station
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Lisa
(Buss) Martin
3/21/05
When
cigarettes started rising in price everywhere else to 50 & 75
cents a pack, Lisle smokers swore they would "quit before
they would ever pay a dollar" because you could still
buy cigarettes for 35 cents a pack from the machine at Norman's
gas station in the very early 70's.
I love this web site.
(R.L.: Thanks Lisa... Oh, and by the way,
we're really looking for any old Norman Oil photos
or any items that you'd receive when you filled up your tank. The
complimentary glasses or the towels??? Ice scrapers etc.? Here's
the only picture I've found of Norman's Gas station... The guys
name is Tom "Lance" Graney. Apparently there were some
pretty great parties at his Mom's house! Anyway, it's very interesting
to try to identify the items in the background of this photo. You
can almost hear the "ding-ding" bell that would sound
when driving in to a gas station!) Click
here to hear those "service station bells! ( I
couldn't resist.)
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This
photo was taken from inside the station looking out.
The upper right shows what appears to be a "map
rack" that is obviously low on maps. And how
many light switches did this place have?
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Here's
a close-up of the same photo. You can clearly see Citco
across the street and a sign advertising "charcoal" for
.59 cents. On the far right appears to be the "Leo's
Cleaners" panel van and an old (even then) gas "tower" (I
think.SEE LETTER ABOVE THAT EXPLAINS WHAT IT IS.) The
old "Walker Gamble" house would have been
right behind where we see his head. And yes folks,
you can show your kids this photo and remind them of
a time when there were "service stations" and
the "men where men" (check out that grease
on his shirt and hands!) and everyone knew the question "Fill
'er up?"
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Deb
Rosser-Vest
4/25/05
Hi!
This website contines to amaze me! What a wonderful gift, Thank
you again.
I am sure if Chip Buss is looking for Tony Deckard in the "Lost & Found" section,
he has identified himself and Anna Burkman. Sherry DeCaire, Jeannie
Altendorf and I as well as a host of others worked with her mom
in the high school library.
In the "Lisle Coffee Shop" photos, I think one of the
boys in the booth-far left maybe Roy Koerner? In the booth with
Sue Houha maybe is Mike McDade
On the Lisle parade movie- The "folk group" was Denny
Belom and group of high schoolers from 1966 or 67.
At Christmas
my Mom was here. She was thrilled to see your site. Thanks-
it was a great to sit and look at pictures for an hour or
so!! Was one of the best parts of our Christmas this year.
Take care,
keep up the great work.
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Mike
Buchman
New London, WI
4/17/05
WOW! What
A web site... I just finished reading it twice! I just re-lived
my entire childhood!
Were do I begin, first of all my name is Mike Buchman. I lived
in Lisle from 1959 to 1974 at two locations one on River Dr. and
then to The Meadows. I now live in Wisconsin, my mother Doris also
grew up in Lisle and resides as my nieghbor . She has many stories
about the VFW as she was the treasurer, and my father Leonard was
the post comander in the 50's.
The Meadows aka transfer heaven as my mother called it she would
claim she was the only native, as our family was
one of the first to move in. The trips to Gary's and National were
priceless it seemed you could get anything at Gary's, from lawn
furniture by the front door liquor by the back, toys ice cream,
perscriptions it seemed they had everything. The day that JFK was
shot I can remeber standing in line at The National, and the manager
came down from that elevated office and said somebody just shot
the president, and my mother said thats nothing to joke about.
After getting to the car and turning on the radio, my mom cried
all the way home.
The TV section of the page
is incredible also. Does anyone remember watching Ray Rayner in
the morning before going to school? Those arts & craft projects
always turned into A disaster. What about at Christmas time I think
it was on Bozo, Suzy Snowflake, Hardrock, Coco and Joe.& Frosty
the snowman. About 10 yrs ago they replayed these on WGN and I
taped it.
It has become A ritual at our house to watch it every Christmas.
I can also remember another barber in town, Joe Zelany not
sure on the spelling? He was A good friend of my parents.
My wife and daughter think I am
nuts,last fall we were in Lisle to visit relation while driving
down
Main st. I said look the Book Nook is still there I quickly pulled
over and ran in to buy something! After returning to the car they
thought I had flipped, I tried to explain about going there as
A
kid. Needless to say I think they are jealous they don't have A
website to relive thier childhood. Thanks again for the great site!
So many other memories what about
Smitty's Standard
Culp's
Yankee Doodle hamburgers
Little Leauge baseball the team names were colors.
Johansens sweet corn
The Meadows pool & skating rink
Riding your bike behind the mosquito fogger.
Mr Webster & his wooden paddle at the Jr high.
I will check back soon! Thanks .
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Sharon
(Cleary) Giblin
4/15/05
Wow,
I stumbled on your web site and it brought back so many fond
memories. Some not so fond – I went to St. Joan of
Arc school for my first years of school (no gym class just
recess) then was transferred to Scheisher School where kids
were rather mean since I didn’t have a clue what to
do in gym class). I lived in Lisle for about 30 years but
really never moved far from the area. My family had 3 houses
in Lisle, each time upgrading. The first one was off of Ogden
on Kingston, then on Meadow Lane in Oakview and then Columbia
Ave. walking distance to St. Joan of Arc. I occasionally
will drive by one of the house to see what changes have been
made. Sometimes it’s too sad to see that the trees
where you swung from are chopped down or the flower gardens
have been ripped out. I too have memories of:
Dr.
Seredynsky who made house calls with her leather black bag
when my dad injured his back. Getting my first library card
in the building that housed the police station on Main Street,
then later checking out books at the corner where Minuette
Restaurant is now (or was). Dog & Suds is where our family
likes to recount the story that my sister lost her babysitting
job. Seems she was babysitting but didn’t want to miss
the fun where her friends hung out at Dog & Suds so she
dragged the two small kids with her and the ended up getting
mustard and ketchup squirted on them by her teen age friends.
From that point on, I was became their new sitter. Oh and
Kings Palace, I always had heard stories that you could find
gold wedding bands in the parking lot. Apparently, married
men had a tendency to take their rings off on the way in
and sometimes dropped them. Nels Tavern on Main was a mysterious
place that we quickly rode our bikes past because it seemed
so creepy. And the Squirrel Cage gets laughs when I tell
my husband about it even though I never was in it. I remember
Mr. McCoy, the Junior High Principal teaching a cooking class
after school and learning how to make barbeque sauce with
ketchup. And fortunately, I was never on the receiving end
of the paddle that he was rumored to have. I remember our
phone number starting with Woodland 9. Funny how I can still
remember that phone number but not my recent past numbers.
I remember opening my first savings account at Lisle Savings
with money from my piggy bank. I had that same account as
a young adult when I worked there and knew most customers
by name.
Thanks for the memories!
(R.L.: Sharon... Oh the memories of Dr. Seredynsky! Some terrifying
and other's simply hysterical. She really deserves her own web
page here.
Like so many in Lisle, she "delivered" all of us kids.
Remember that waiting room? And then going in and having to sit
on that table that always had a fresh sheet of "butcher's" paper
on it? I never forget having to go in for my annual football physical.
First your pants... Then came the "fingers." Then the
words..."Ok... Cough..." And anyone in the waiting room
could hear everything going on in that office.
Oh the humility!
Anyway... Here is a picture taken in April of '05. As
you can see, whoever lives
there now cut all the bushes. Next door (on the left) is now a
big "law" office building. Southport Rd. Is still very
pretty. Thanks for the letter sharon!)
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Jacquie
Wurth Hope Chapman
4/14/05
My
name is Jacquie Wurth Hope Chapman. My dad was police chief
fro 1962 to about 1972 when he retired after a heart attack.
I graduated in 1965 and my brother graduated in 1969. We
had a neighbor that had a child named Steve Baumgartner who
played with the New Orleans Saints in the early 1970s. At
some point in my dads time there (I know I was in High School)
some young hoodalum shot up our house in the wee hours of
the morning. My mother was most annoyed that her new kitchen
cupboards had bullet holes in them. One of my best friends
(and still is today-Teresa Gamble) was the daughter of the
mayor, Walker Gamble.Three
years ago my house burned down and I lost most of my photos
from those days, but if any turn up I will send them. Thanks
for the memories.
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Bob
LeClercq
4/7/05
We
would tape M-80's to cigarettes and sneak down the police
station steps, leave them and run like heck. It was fun just
watching them all run out to see if they could figure who
did it. The good old days:-)
WHAT
THE????
(R.L.: Hey Bob, here is a shot of the door that led down "those
stairs" to the police department. At the bottom of the stairs
you had to go to the right to enter the police station. If you
went left, there was some sort of "printing" operation
going on with some big printing presses. Is that where they printed
the Lisle Sun??
In the police station, do you remember the jail they had with the
square bars?
The police department then moved to the offices just to the right
of the arrow. Wasn't this building the original post office?
Thanks for the Memory!)
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Pete Buss
3/27/05
When
are you going to have the "Remembering Lisle
Fest" reunion ? Give it a year or 2 maybe.
I would love to go.
(R.L.:
Hi Pete!
A "Fest" huh??? Hmmm. I never thought of that... Rides,
games, food, attractions? That might be pretty cool!
Think about it... We could have names for the food like the "William
C. McCoy" pot roast platter!
Or "The Mrs. Borg" extra HOT chili.
You get smacked with a wooden spoon if you don't finish I
like the “Fest” idea Pete!)
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A Letter From Mrs. Homan!
3/28/05
I
was informed about the Lisle web site and imagine my surprise
when I saw a picture of one of my classrooms featured with
the quote I wanted my students to remember and to live by---"all
that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men
do nothing."
(CLICK
HERE TO SEE LARGER VERSION OF PICTURE WITH
THE SAYING FROM THE BULLITIN BOARD)
My former students may be interested to know that in the many years
since my retirement I have tried to "practice what I preached." The
first summer I arrived here in the Ozarks of Arkansas in 1980 Dick
and I felt called to join the very, very small Republican County
Committee. Arkansas' one-party system would have put Dick Daley's
Cook County machine to shame. I could write a book about our efforts
to work for a two-party system so badly needed. We used lawsuits,
several of them, and the results that come from exposing much in
the media. Our most important battle though, was the struggle for
public funding of primaries--which we finally had to take to the
Federal Courts to get relief. Arkansas was the last state in the
country to expect the political parties to fully pay for the primary
elections. Needless to say, the Democrat party controlled 75 of
the 75 counties and elections commissions, controlled by the Democrats,
used public funds and their high filing fees to pay for their primaries.
Our people often had to use private funds when the filing fee money
ran out. We worked on the campaigns of many Republican candidates
and attended a number of National Conventions as delegates. Dick
was one of six Arkansas electors for President Bush in 1988. In
1992 I had the honor of being chosen as the Arkansas Committeewoman
to the National Republican Committee. During 8 years we worked
with Haley Barbour (who is now Governor of Mississippi) and New
Gingrich to promote the "Contract with America" which
succeeded in putting the first Republican majority in the House
of Representatives in more than 40 years! But the most exciting
time of all was 2000 when I was selected an an elector for George
W. Bush and, though it did not happen, any one of the six electoral
votes Arkansas was entitled to could have thrown the election to
Al Gore! I hope my students came away from my classes realizing
that for all of its faults our government is still the best in
the world and until something better comes along good people MUST
do all they can.
Incidentally, the Homan girls have done OK. They had a good foundation
in the schools of L:isle. Tragically, Kathy (1968) was lost to
leukemia in 1991. She got her MS in Computer Science from Johns
Hopkins and worked at the National Institute of Health. Susan (1970)
became a board certified neo-natologist and lives in San Antonio.
Cindy (1975) is a Dr. of Veterinary Medicine in Arkansas and Celeste
(1976) got her degree in Electrical Engineering and an MS from
Johns Hopkins. She is now a practicing acupuncturist in Maryland.
Lynne (1979) got a Juris Doctorate from Valparaiso University,
licensed in Georgia and South Carolina. For a time she was a prosecuting
attorney and now is a stay at home Mom in Florida. We have 13 grandchildren.
To keep things in perspective, I remind myself that babies born
the year I retired are now 25 years old and never heard of me.
I hope I have not offended my liberal ex-students. Keep up the
interesting, good work.
Mildred Homan (Mrs. Richard F.)
We ha
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Anonymous
3/28/05
Do
you remember the shoe repair/used furniture store that was
located at the corner of Burlington Ave and Main St? It was
a long building and always smelled of cigars. How about Frank & Hazel's?
It was a bar and sat where The Fox's parking lot is.
(R.L.: Oh yeah! The building on the north / west corner right?
What else did that used to be?
But I always wondered about that little building across the street
on the "south / west" corner of Burlington and Main!
I never could figure how anyone could actually do business out
of such a small place. We used to ride our bikes up to the windows
and spy inside... In the 70s it always looked like someone was
just storing a bunch of stuff in there. Does anyone know if it
was ever a gas station or something?? Here is the only picture
we could find. So far, we haven't found any pictures of "Frank & Hazel's
but we are desperately seeking!)
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Remembering the Mail!
Pam Smith Zielinski
3/14/05
Until the early 50's Lisle didn't have mail carriers. You had to
go to
the Post Office and dial your combination and get your mail out
of the
little box with the window. When carrier service was authorized
for the
Lisle Post Office, Postmaster, Earl Sutter contacted my dad, Les
Smith and
Jim Sikorski and offered them the jobs as Lisle's first city carriers.
My
dad was a carrier in Glen Ellyn at the time and jumped at the chance
to work
close to home. My dad delivered to the north side of Lisle, and
Jim
delivered to the south side. At that time there were two routes
and when
dad retired in 1980 there were twelve.
The first mail truck they had was a Chevy panel truck with left
hand
drive. Luckily, Dad had long legs and arms. He could drive and
still reach
out the window on the right side and put the mail in the box.
A typical day was eleven and a half hours long and longer during
the
Christmas holidays when they would often start at 5 AM and end
at 8 PM. Dad
said it was always an interesting job and he knew the people on
his route
appreciated what he did. He got to know them and watched their
kids grow up
and marry. He would check on elderly people on the route if he
hadn't seen
them for awhile and even stopped once to help a kid stuck in the
mud.
Sometimes if the truck broke down my mom, June, would get behind
the
wheel of our Rambler station wagon and drive the route while Dad
delivered.
Val, Scott and Steve and I even got to go in the truck once in
a great while
if we stayed down low. Most days were pretty uneventful, but he
did get
bitten once or twice by dogs and one day someone had stuffed a
cat in a
mailbox and it leaped out when he opened it!
Dad and Mom have enjoyed watching the town grow from a sleepy rural
village where Dad graduated as one of two students from Bonaparte
School, a
one room schoolhouse on Park Boulevard, to what it is today and
still live
nearby in Naperville.
Postmaster, Earl
Sutter, Les Smith and Jim Sikorski
Dad clocking out
for the last time - June, 1980
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Paul
Gronke
Dept. of Political Science
Reed College
3203 SE Woodstock Blvd
Portland, OR 97202
3/5/05
Wow.
What a website. I guess anything really is possible on the
Internet.
My
family moved to Lisle in the last 1950s (I think 1957). We
lived on
Jonquil Ave., attended the St. Joan of Arc Church, and all went
through
the public schools. We moved out when my father was transferred
to
Houston in 1971. The lasting impact of Lisle on me, I think, is
my
realization that I actually grew up in a small town. For a long
time, I
told people I grew up in the Chicago suburb of Lisle, since many
know of
Lisle as a big cluster of apartment buildings next to Naperville.
But
then I realize that Lisle in the mid 1960s had a population
under
5,000, unpaved streets, and cornfields between Downers Grove and
Lisle.
I know they were there, just beyond the Methodist church, because
that's
where me and my friends used to run around and get into trouble
with the
farmers.
My
memories? My dad was mayor in the mid 1960s and paved Main
Street.
My friends and I used to play "capture the flag" between
all of the
connected yards behind the houses. And of course putting pennies
on the
train tracks, telling each other that the trains really wouldn't
run off
the tracks when they hit the penny!
Sad
to see Main St. School (I left while attending 6th grade
there) and
St. Joan's were torn down. Unfortunately, Lisle is pretty sterile
now.
Hard to believe it's the same town.
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