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The Accident No One Will Forget..
Michael
Johnson.
Atlanta, GA.
3/6/06
Speaking
of the Kinney's shoe store, it always reminds me of a
melancholy
late summer day riding my bike down South Rd. I was somewhere
around 10 yrs old. I always felt this way in late summer
because the best of my adventures were over and the nervousness
of the approaching school days were
right around the corner. It was mixed with the excitement
of seeing class mates I haven't seen in awhile, but it
was also the fear of not cutting the mustard in my new
classes.
On this
particular day, as I was riding my bike, I heard ambulances
in the distance. I didn't take much notice at first,
but then they got louder and I realized there were more
than
just one siren. In fact,
there was so many sirens that I knew something really
bad happened and it made my skin crawl. It sounded
like something out of War of the Worlds. I took my bike
back to my house
to find out if we were under attack but nobody knew
what I was talking about. I figured they just weren't
paying
attention so I went to investigate, and rode my
bike in the direction of the sirens. When I got to
the end of my neighborhood in the Meadows, I knew there
must
have been an accident on Maple Street somewhere near
Downers Grove because the sirens were no longer moving
off into the distance.
But the sound of the sirens were outside my perimeter
with my bike so I went back home and figured it was
just a bad
car accident
and
we weren't under attack after all. Now that my fear
had subsided.. I was still sad but wasn't even quite
sure
why. I just figured I was
a wimp,
had to suck
it in and go about my business. Back in those days,
you didn't want to show your emotions on your sleeve.
You
never knew who would be within sight to take advantage
of you
when your guard
was down. That was one of the reasons I became such
a good tree climber and watched like a sentry from
100
ft, looking
at the "big" kids
wander below. Not to mention my dad and three brothers
were Marine's. And a couple of them were fighting the
enemy in Vietnam. So who was I to complain about anything
I would
experience behind the enemy line in the Meadows?
The next day, all the "big" people who seemed
clueless to me the day before.. The people who were
actually doing things like watching the news and reading
the newspapers,
started leaking information to the uninformed and I
was shocked to find out what actually happened.
Now before
I begin,
I want to apologize if this brings back very bad memories
to some of you and if I get any of the facts wrong, it's
just the memory of a 10 yr old boy in the late 60's.
But this
memory just won't go away every time I think of the Kinney's
shoe store. Or any time through the years I bought my
own children shoes prior to the new school year. A drunk
driver,
I'm pretty sure I remember the name of the drunk driver,
but I don't want to mention it, was coming
down Maple street in Downer's Grove. He was so drunk
in fact that he took out a few mail boxes, then swerved
into
oncoming traffic and just missed several cars and continued
on his
way. In the other direction, a family of three generations
was happily coming home from the Kinney's shoe store
and wearing their new shoes. I remember the feeling like
it
was yesterday.. How cool it was to be wearing a brand
new pair of shoes from Kinney's. There were eleven of
them (three generations)
in this large station wagon. From the grandmother (or
grandparents), to the 8 month old baby. In my memory,
all of them had
new shoes from Kinney's. When they came around one of
the corners
on Maple Street, they met head on with the
drunk driver. All eleven people in this station wagon,
three generations, were killed instantly. When I heard
that from someone who seemed to be taking this news way
too
casually, I just
walked away without a word. But I couldn't stop thinking
about it. Then someone else told me there was
this station wagon crunched into a ball of metal at the
gas station
in Lisle on Maple street and they wondered if I wanted
to go look at it.
They seemed to also be clueless about the story because
they were excited about seeing this crunched up car.
I told them what I thought and they just shrugged their
shoulders and asked if I wanted to go or not. So I
reluctantly went, because I didn't want to show my
emotions on my
sleeve.
When we got there, the others got really excited about
this crunched up car. But I approached it like I was
in a dream, and couldn't get myself to just leave.
They got
there first
and started talking about how this car must have been
going really fast to have this much damage, they talked
about
how the steering wheel was three inches from the frond
seat. All I saw was
one brand new woman's high heel shoe sitting on the
floor of the passengers side in the front. I couldn't
take
my eyes
off of it. The boys I was with, lost interest analyzing
the damage to the car and told me they were leaving.
I told them to look at the shoe. It had some blood
on it.
They looked at it, and again seemed to take it quite
casually to me, and said
something to me which I don't remember. Then they said
they were leaving and said something like "Are you
going or not?". But I just couldn't take my eyes
off the shoe. I wasn't really there, I was thinking
of the
family and
how happy they probably were just before they came
around that corner. I was thinking about how the father
was
probably very proud of himself
for being able to afford all those shoes. I was thinking
about how happy the mother was that she had a husband
who could drive his whole family to Kinney's for such
an important
time
in their life, and how she couldn't wait to show off
her beautiful new shoes. I was thinking of the boys
who probably
couldn't wait to get home and put a penny in their
penny loafers.
The grandmother who was happy to be invited along.
The baby who was clueless but happy to be surrounded
by her
family.
Well, that's what I think about when I hear anyone mention
Kinney's shoe store. And again I apologize if anyone out
there knew any of the people involved in this accident.
Michael Johnson
PS.
To Rob Wells ... I remember you and your family. You
were one grade ahead of me.
I remember going
to your
house once and your dad was watching TV. He was wearing
an artist's hat, and he was swearing at the TV because
of all the commercials. He kept getting up and changing
the channel, going back
and sitting down, swear, get back up, change it again,
etc. We thought it was so funny, first because he swore,
which my parents didn't do, so I thought he was cool,
and second
because of the hat, which my dad never would have worn.
I remember another time when someone drove a car through
your garage and came out in the back yard, which we had
a direct line of sight from our sliding glass door on
the top floor of our house in our dining room and kitchen.
We thought that was pretty funny. It was twilight or
dark, because
I remember seeing the headlights pop right out of the
garage and stop mid way out of your garage. The last
time I went over to your house, I remember you throwing
darts
at us. I
narrowly ducked and didn't get hit. You laughed and said
something like "
good dodge", then lost interest in me and kept hitting,
I think, Bob Wilson in the butt with darts. He kept yelping,
you kept laughing, and I left, thinking this wasn't too
much fun.
You moved soon afterwards. Don't take that too personal,
my own brother's used to throw fire crackers at me, hence
the ability to dodge really well. I did feel sorry for
the guys you kept sticking though. And I did my share
of doing things I'm not exactly proud of myself over
the years, which
I think I'll skip mentioning if you don't mind.
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A Benet Student
3/3/06
I
am a student at Benet Academy and the one thing that
makes me love my
school is the history surrounding it. I smiled the
entire way through your piece about the fourth floor
of St.
Joseph's Orphanage and Father Jude. There are so
many "stories" and "sightings" I've
heard about the school and I'm glad you took the time
to dig deeper into the haunting of Benet Academy
and Benedictine
University. Although I have had the privilege of
climbing the same stairs you did to get to "the
attic," your
pictures sent chills down my spine. You were right
about the students
hearing about these mysterious sightings. I think every
student knows some different version of a ghost story.
I can tell you though, I have thought many times about
the orphanage and Benet's past. I have a hard time
imagining the children of the orphanage but with
your help, it
is clearer now. Thank you for writing about my school.
I'm
glad others can see the charm of the old orphanage
and now high school. I wish you luck on your next
case.
A loving student
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Growing up in Lisle in the
50s/60s, we were obviously deprived of having alot
of entertainment
and cultural things that the larger
towns around us had. We routinely had to travel to the, "big
metropolis" of
Downers Grove to obtain some of the creature comforts
and bare necessities. Yearly, we made the pilgrimage
and journey to the, "Robert
Hall" store to purchase my new clothing for the
school year. No designer duds on these racks. My mother
keenly focused on durability and longevity for her clothing
selections. A stop at Kinneys shoes was also in order.
No designer athletic shoes available here, but perhaps
a purchase of a pair of white keds that eventually produced
that funky rubber smell we all remember.
But, the one
thing that stands out in my mind the most, is the journey
to the Tivoli Theater for a Saturday afternoon cinema
extravaganza. One of the neighbor mothers would be enlisted
to drive us bunch of brats to the Tivoli early Saturday.
If we were extremely lucky, we would get a, "whole
dollar", for the afternoon festivities. This would
cover the huge 35 cents admission fee, and the remainder
went to tooth decay products and the infamous, "
extra" buttered popcorn. The hardest part was determining
the specific candy selection for the day. This also required
your best Main Street School arithmetic skills to compute
exactly what the cost was down to the penny. No sense
in bringing any stupid change home!! I can still remember
the look, smell and feel of the grand old theater, down
to its beautiful ceiling, walls and seating. Once the
lights dimmed and the show was playing, I still remember
my eyes leaving the screen to check out the awesome architectural
details around me. Many classic movies were viewed there,
from "Journey to the Center of the Earth", "House
on the Haunted Hill", "Psycho", to "Disney" classics.
Too many to name.
In case you haven't already, check out this website:
www.organman.com/tivoli.sht
Thanks,
Gary
Klima
(R.L.: Gary! What an awesome web site! Thanks for turning
us all on to it!)
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Pretty cool website and
tribute to our little town, and how it once was. I've
been checking out the website
yesterday and today. A former resident and nearly life
long friend of mine told me about the site. I've almost
nearly clicked on everything in the site so far. Will
eventually get around to all of it.
When I clicked on "Up
Town Views" I saw the photograph, and article about
the old Peony Patch. My brother in law was Barry Crawley,
and my sister mentioned in the Article was Charlene Crawley.
Charlene had also taught school in recent years in Holmes
Beach, Florida. She had been retired from teaching for
the last 5 years, and just recently passed away the day
after Thanksgiving 2005.
I think it would be neat if
you had another feature on the site where residence or
former residence of Lisle could just post there name,
and the years they had lived in Lisle. The List would
automatically sort names in Alphabetic order by last
name when a new posting was made. I would like to put
my mom and dad's name on the list as having been former
residence of Lisle. Both of them are now gone. Dad passed
away in 1956 and mom died in 2003. It would be interesting
to see all the names and how fast they get posted. Anyway
something to think about if you like the idea.
I've also
emailed my other sister who now lives in Phoenix, Arizona
to see if she's got any pictures taken in Lisle. Remember
the old Hankinson's Lumber yard on the south of Odgen
between Yackley Avenue, And Winchester. I remember going
in there many times with my dad when I was a kid to buy
stuff for little fix it projects he do around the house.
Anyway I'll be back to the site from time to time to
see if there's any new pictures or articles to look at
and read. A great site, a great Tribute to our Little
town keep it up.
Sincerely
Russ Crow
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RESPONSE TO
LETTER FROM
"Jeff
Pereira Southport Ave 1/28/06"
by:
Pam Smith Zielinski
2/8/06
This
is in response to Jeff Pereira's letter. I grew up
on the corner of Southport and Main. I lived there
from 1954 until I was married in 1974. Our house was
torn down when my parents moved out abut 13 or 14 years
ago. It was a great corner to grow up on. The Memorial
Day Parade came right by the house. We could look out
the front door to see which way the fire trucks were
going when they blew the whistle for the volunteers
(if the hook and ladder went my dad threw us in the
car and took off to see what was up.)
Mike was talking about Connolly Park. A street used to go through between the
park and the "woods" which are now houses I believe. The woods seemed
huge to us but probably were no more than a lot or two wide. The woods had
paths going through it and cool hiding places and trees to climb. What a great
little piece of property. The road led down to the bridge across the creek,
which wasn't dredged at that time. There were also woods all along the creek
and great places to play and hide. We were always warned not to play in the
creek as it was rumored that you could get polio from the water. That didn't
seem to stop us!
I laughed when Mike talked about Goomba and his goats. My dad was the first
mailman in Lisle and Goomba would often come to our door if his social security
check was late. Some of his goats got out once and Dad had to help him round
them up as they didn't like women and would chase them. Mike, do you remember
the rope swing and tree houses Cinerts used to have by the creek? You would
get on the swing and you were supposed to jump off on the other side of the
creek only I was usually afraid so I would just wait until the rope stopped
swinging and then Mrs. Cinert or one of the boys would have to come out with
a golf club and hook the rope and pull me back! The tree houses were really
high, probably in big elm trees. Once in a great while we would get the nerve
to climb up, but it was a really scary climb and even worse coming down.
I
hope this gives Jeff a little more insight into the
great neighborhood
he moved into.
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Rob Wells
2/3/04
Hi guys.
Hey Paul Naprstek! do you remember Rob Wells from the Meadows?
We were on the same track back in those days. I also
read Michael Johnson's letter. Michael, you guys had
the only swingset in the neighborhood that didn't pull
out of the ground when you really got swingin' high.
I answered some of my own dumb questions from my last
letter. Our principal's name back in 65-67 was Mr.
Cobb!! And Maple street runs all the way to Downers
grove. It's coming back slowly, been a long time.
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Fran
Noetzel (Bonnie Schwier back in my early days)
1/30/06
Kelly's
Shoe Store was where you had your shoes repaired.
Mr & Mrs
Kelly both were shoemakers. They were the nicest people.
They also sold gas for automobiles at one time. I really
enjoyed the pages tonight. Brought back lots of memories.
As I go through my pictures here at home I will look
for old ones for you. You are right about the ugly
monster
that is in the Kelly's place. Too bad people from Lisle
are not running the town. Green Trails should stick
to Naperville!!!!!
Lisle Main Street School is another thing that could
have been used for community activiities and for organizations
to use. We could have had small shops in the building.
They never asked, just took it upon themselves to do
away
with it.
Cinert's bridge goes way back to when I moved to Lisle
in 1945. It was a real bridge at one time that allowed
the road to go through. We called it Cinert's bridge then,
because the family lived there. It was a shortcut to school
and to friends who lived up the street.
Keep up the good job with the site.
(R.L.:
Do you mean to say that these condos aren't
the most
lovely housing projects ever? )
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Jeff
Pereira
Southport Ave
1/28/06
I was trying
to find some information regarding the Village of Lisle
and Lisle Township when I found your site. Great old pictures.
Looks like you lived down the block from where we now live.
We're at 927 Southport - directly behind the Antique Bazaar's
parking lot. Your house may not have been here while you
were growing up, but the ones to either side surely had
been. Can you share any info about our neighborhood?
We share your aggravation with the new Village governance.
It seems we go from fighting one stupid plan to the next.
A couple years ago it was their new Comprehensive Land
Use Plan and now it's a rezoning plan for the entire downtown
area (virtually all single family and multifamily would
need to be gone within 5-10 years with no compensation
for the current owners). In fact, I'm one of the few people
that know all the rezoning details and I've been testifying
against it at all the Planning and Zoning Meetings and
the Board of Trustee Meetings. I've been trying to get
the local papers to carry the story. So far unsuccessfully,
although The Lisle Sun called for me yesterday and said
they'd call back Monday. Keep your fingers crossed.
(R.L.: I know what you mean Jeff.
Our fingers are crossed and please let us know how it
goes.
Now about your neighborhood.. Well there are a
few little interesting things that you might be interested
in...
First, you live behind what used to be the "Coast
to Coast" Hardware store. Our dad's all used to take
us
there to buy "stuff." As a kid it was kinda cool cause
they had a downstairs section were you could go and hide...
Before the days of security cameras you could really
do a lot of screwing around down there before you finally
got yelled at by someone...
Also, Lisle once had a lonely old Italian
man that lived in an old shack at the end of your road.
Right
at the
north / east corner of Southport and Main. His name was
"Goomba." He was somewhat of a recluse and his yard was
filled with chickens, goats, dogs etc.. It was a regular
miniature farm. He probably lived there up until the
mid to late 60's. We would always see him walking up
town with his big old
dark
wool coat
and
his
legs
moving
a
mile a
minute.. Yet he would only be moving ever so slowly.
We always thought it was kinda funny. He was a true Lisle
original and everyone on that side of town knew about
Goomba. He only spoke Italian so when we would see him
up town we would yell to him the only words we knew in
Italian.. "Como estas Goomba??" He would just smile
and say Bueno... Bueno... He just seemed like such a
sweet ol' man.
I never knew what happened to Goomba but
my son and I made an interesting discovery when we were
visiting a garage sale at a house right next to where
Goomba's house used to be. If you look closely, you will
see a small wooden building.. It kinda' looks like a
small tool shed with windows... Look at it closer and
you'll see a small square opening on the lower portion
of the outer wall. It's boarded up from inside but you
can still see the square hole... Well that used to be
Goomba's chicken coop!! And that square hole is where
the chickens used to climb in and out of their little
house. It looks like someone converted it into a kids
playhouse but that was his chicken coop! I'm sorry but
I was just so excited to find that it still actually
exists... Okay...
I know... It will probably be torn down within the year..
Oh well.
Okay... Next amazing fact about your neighborhood.. Did
you know that the park across the street from your house
was named after a REAL hero. It's really a sad story...
A wonderful man named Mr. Connolly was well known around
Lisle. He would volunteer his time and he was even one
of those guys that would wear those little "Lion's Club"
hats and orange vests and go around selling those little
rolls of candy to raise money for the Lion's
Club charities. Sometimes they would be selling those
little paper poppies or even peanuts... And right out
in the middle of traffic or up at the train. Well Mr.
Connolly, as I understand it, was busy selling up
at the train station when he saw a woman trying to get
out
of
the
way of an oncoming train... She was having a hard time
so Mr. Connolly rushed to her aid...
He lost his life on those tracks that morning and Lisle
lost
one
of it's
finest friends. I think of that story ever time I see
children playing in that park.
Also, the Nelson brothers lived only a stones throw from
your house. They were both avid skydivers known throughout
the area. Roger went on to be known worldwide for his
skydiving skills and for his contributions to the actual
sport that it eventually became. In large part thanks
to him. It's tragically ironic however that both the
Nelson boy's lives ended doing what they loved to do
best...
Well Jeff, there are some other "funky" facts about
your 'hood but maybe for another time... But I have
a question
for you... Please ask people around your area because
I really need to know. What ever happened to "Buckley
Rock?" There used to be this huge boulder sitting next
to the road down on Buckley. It must have weighed 10
tons... I went to look for it a while back and it was
gone! Where
the HECK??? Oh well, just thought I'd ask.)
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June M. Pennock
1/24/06
Dear
Mary Ann, Which little sister are you talking about?
Sandra, Sarah,
or Cindy Lou? I'm just so excited about getting these emails!
Unfortunately, I don't have real clear memories of everyone
( I blame it on the "70'S"). I'll have to get
a map of Lisle out just to remember where I used to live.
My Mom and Dad had a house right on 53 and the off ramp
from Ogden Ave. I worked many years at Rayme's restaurant.
I believe last time I was there "Betty" still
worked there. I lived on Schwartz St. I remember it being
so cold at 1:00 A.M. when I got off work
that I used to put the baked potatoes from the restaurant
in my pocket to keep me warm. Proud to say that my sister
Sarah kept that tradition up when she waitressed. She even
said she was going to write a book on the top things you
can used baked potatoes for!
I haven't kept up with the lisle newspaper at all. I hope
I haven't missed anything. I live in Laporte, Colorado.
If anyone has family out here in my town or Fort Collins,
please let me know. The weather is so nice here, but the
food can't come close to Chicago! I'll be waiting to here
from anyone!
Hi to all the great people back home! June Pennock (Dooley)
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Anonymous
1/24/06
I've
lived between lisle and Cicero my whole life. My
parents in lisle and
my grandma in Cicero. lots of times we would see things
in the forest behind the actual church on the southeast
corner of the intersection of College and Maple. We
also thought we saw something land in that forest one
time
in a clearing.
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Mike Mason
1/16/06
Hey guys or girls;
What a great site. I lived in Lisle until the mid-70's
when it was still a little town.
I used to live at the corner of Rt 53 & Short St.
I
remember when we did not have an address, and deliveries,
would be addressed: White house with red roof on corner
of 53 & Short St.
Thanks again for a great "blast
from the past"
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Rob Wells
1/9/06
Hi Michael!
I was in a nostalgic mood today and stumbled upon your
magnificent website! Yes I attended Main Street School
for 5th and 6th grade back in 1966 and 1967. We lived
in a development called The Meadows. 603 Rose Court
to be exact. I attended the
Meadows School prior to 1966. Do you remember a Mrs.
Knoop? (at Main Street) I made her life miserable.
I can't remember the principal's name at the moment.
I'm 49..... anyway I got yelled at for kicking a ball
through the cafeteria window, which if you remember
right was at ground level. Everybody got glass in their
soup. Do you remember a Jerry's Diner? It was located
right next to the one hour martinizing I can't remember
the road, but if you traveled it far enough in one
direction you wound up at a ski hill called 4 Lakes.
The other direction would take you to Downers Grove.
My brother worked at 4 Lakes and attended LCHS Lisle
Community High School, my sister did too and worked
at Jerry's slinging hash. My older bro went to Vietnam.
I got busted for shoplifting at the shopping center
across the street from Jerry's just before we moved
to the Florida Keys, where I got on the High Road and
stayed there.
Two more teacher names from Main Street
school... Miss Peld and Miss Howell. They were hotties!
They tried to sympathize w/ Mrs.Knoop who was having
a bear
of a time with me and a friend named Greg Porter, along
with another kid named George Johnson.. And I want to say
the Principal's
name was something like Mr. Cox???? More as I remember...
Anyway I would love to see what you and I have in common.
Please respond!
(R.L.:
Rob... I'm sure we have a lot in common.... Yup... We had
some "hottie" teachers at Main Street. Mrs Cat was
this bleach blonde, "all season" tanned, short skirted, high
strung knockout. Before the days of Prozak, we used
to love
to just
sit and
watch
her freak out when one of the "hyper active" kids would
be doing something dumb in class. In fact... It was
always such great entertainment to watch "other kids" get
in trouble... At least it wasn't me! And throwing rocks at
the bell outside on the east brick wall... And playing "Smash
'em up" on the swings? That's when you battle it out by swinging
into the other person on the other swing next to you. It
was best if you have mud on your shoes 'cause it
would fly everywhere!! GREAT FUN!)
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Paul Naprstek
1/7/06
Combing through your website, which I have done often,
has made me realize that our experience really was
unique. Here we were in the middle of the Chicago suburbs
(Downers Grove, Naperville, Glen Ellyn, etc), and yet
we were really experiencing small-town life more in
keeping with the towns/schools we played football against
(Yorkville, Plano, Dwight, etc.). Everybody was watching
the same things! Frankly, they weren't necessarily
the most interesting things, but the fact that there
is
a whole community of people who can consistently remember
somebody like Ol' Rosie or a building as mundane as
the VFW Hall/King's Palace is pretty remarkable. I
certainly get more of a thrill visiting your website
these days than I do visiting Lisle itself, which has
less of what I remember of Lisle.
For
years I've enjoyed making photo-by-photo comparisons
between the 1971 "
Vale" and the 1964 National Lampoon High School
Yearbook Parody.
Am I the only one?
(R.L.:
Paul... I think you nailed it.. It really was a unique place)
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Dennis
Figg
1/1/06
RE: Garbage Disposal
A
company called "Healthways Disposal" was
our garbage hauler on Burlington. They were later purchased
by Rott's Disposal, who was purchased by BFI.
(R.L.: Wow... Thanks Dennis!)
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Britt-Marie
Knoblock
12/26/05
Does anybody remember a grocery store that stood on
Rt. 53 where the car wash is? Nexr door to Joe's
Flowers. My
husbands family owened it for a while and my husband
talks about the hay rides his dad use to have in
the winter time
at Christmas time. I would love to surprise him with
a picture or even a story about someone who remembers
the
hay rides and the hot chocolate afterwards.
My email address
is:
swedebrittmarie@hotmail.com
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1st Lt Steve Kulisek
12/22/05
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the great web site. I stumbled accross it by
accident.
I could never remember the name of that restaurant that
burned down. Now I know. What year did King's Palace start?
What year did it burn down? I lived in Bolingbrook for
26 years, my mother worked in Lisle so she banked at the
Bank of Lisle, I would get a haircut and visit the booknook.
I now work in Lisle and I went to the booknook last summer,
your description of it was correct, walking in in 2005
brought me back to 1975 with the sounds, smelI, and sights.
I always thought Lisle was a neat town. Bolingbrook never
had that traditional downtown like Lisle.
I appreciate the time and effort that you took to put it
all together!
(R.L.:
I think it burned down in '76... And thank you Steve
for sharing with us all.)
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Steve Olsen
12/16/05
I now live in
Brookfield, and you do know that the last surviving Cock
Robin is still in business here and going strong. This
store was th one they didn't think would survive due to
it's location, but it was bought out and they kept the
name and won't change it. However, they do sell Peterson
ice cream there as the original Cock Robin ice cream is
no longer available. So, if you want a Silver Star soda,
One in a Million malt, or a Steakburger, drive or better
yet, hop on the BNSF train and get it in Brookfield.
(R.L.:
Great reporting Steve! You da MAN! I'm heading over there
the first chance I get!)
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Lorraine
Blanco
12/16/05
I think you missed
this one in your history of Lisle. Look into the 1st Congregational
Church of Lisle, dating back in the 1800's. 1006 N. Ogden.
Still alive and kicking. Also, the house next to the church,
(east side) is the house of Imogene Beals, lifetime member
and historian of the church, built around the time the
church was built or maybe before that. You'll find some
interesting history there.
(R.L.:
Your right Lorraine! there is great history to be had at
both
locations. Many Lisle-ites went to the 1st, Congregational
Church. There are so many stories to be told. And the house
next to it is just awesome. I took these photos during
the Fall of '05. I was just appalled that something with
such history would just be allowed to be unpainted and
deteriorating in the weather. Let us know if you can find
out any more history about either the church or this house.)
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Cindy Riedy Garcia
(Granddaughter
of Louis Riedy and daughter of Jim Riedy, owners of Southtown
Garage)
12/6/05
Funny,
I don’t
remember dad EVER having a German Shepherd. He had a small “rat
terrior” type, then “fluffy” the grease
colored white lab mutt/mix, and lastly “bandit” a
boarder collie/lab mix who was an escape artist.
Thank you
for updating the website. I truly enjoy your hard work.
Regards,
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Richard R. Zellner
12/4/05
You
have an awesome web site! I'm 26 and I've spent my whole
life in Lisle. The Dairy Castle used to be right down
the street
from my house. I was really too young to remember much
of that. The big spot there that I could remember was
called Munchies. It was later turned into a mexican restaurant
and then a chinese place. Now it's just sitting around
like a boarded up shack, which
is really a disgrace.
How about an A&W root beer place or something? Anyway,
it's just great to look at sites in my town that I take
for granite in passing each day. In reference to that shoe
store that is now replaced by the condo complex, I remember
having a pair of leather sandals fixed over there when
the strap broke. I always wondered how someone could have
much of a business in a little shack like that.
I think they did a lot of shoe repairs, though. I'll ask
my parents about that and get some information to you if
they have it.
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11/23/05
Stuart Bryan
I really enjoyed
skimming thru everything. It will take a long time
to read it all. My family (well then it was
just my mom Marg (see art on Lisle phone book, flag and
Lion in the new gym and a lot of the Historic Society
ornaments), my Dad Jim "Red" and me) moved
into a new subdivision in 1959. I left in 73 after graduating
(got the link to this thru our class website) but returned
off and on. My ma is buried in the cemetary on Ogden.
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Mark Garbe
11/19/05
Hi Mike,
Wow! What a great site! I had dinner with a chilldhood
friend the other night, (my best friend actually). We'd
hadn't seen each other for about 18 years or so and he
told me about this site, as we spent most of the evening
talking about lisle. What a pleasent surprise when I saw
your photo and read all the letters from people we all
grew up with sharing their memories, so I thought I
would
share some of mine.
Since you and I grew up in the same part of lisle,(
Rt. 53&Lacey), I have
extremely fond memories of our "old neighborhood". There are so many
but I'll just name a few. Places like the wooded area behind "Jim & Jeff"s
Garage" and
the old Clark gas station. This is where the st. josephs creek ended and emptied
into the DuPage river. Almost every weekend, like clockwork, we'd see your brother(John)
walking along with his fishing poles and a few hours later he'd be walking back,
smiling, proudly displaying his stringer line and his catch. The antique heavy
equiptment(bulldozers
and such), located behind "Jim & Jeff's" and
the dirt tracks that weaved in between proved to be an excellent bicycle playground
for all of
us kids during the late "60s" and early "70s".
Another fond memory is Tate Woods elementary school. The circle of trees that
embraced the playground is the place where I had my first kiss. It's funny because
even now after all this time, I can remember everything about that playground
down to the smallest detail, but I can't remember the girls name who kissed me
(Julie something I think). I drove by it years ago and I couldn't believe how
small it seemed. Except for the trees. Those were as big as they ever were.
Karen and I have lived in the Bolingbrook / Naperville area for 12 years now
(her hometown), and I talk very proudly about the wonderful memories that I
have growing up in lisle. For me, in our neighborhood, it was one giant explorers
paradise filled with creeks and rivers, gigantic trees, great people, and a
wonderful
community. How blessed am I to be from such a place that had neighbors like
the Johansen family, of Johansen Farms, who lived just a few houses down from
us
at
the end of our street. Or the Hommesser Family, who lived 2 houses down from
us and were direct relations to the Frank Hommesser family, which is one of
the first, if not THE first family to live in lisle. And, of course, the petry's,
who lived across RT. 53 from us.
Thanks so much for
creating this site for such a wonderful town.
Warm Regards to your family,
Mark Garbe
(Mark...
I can't begin to tell you how wonderful this letter is
to me. And yes, my brother John loved fishing more than
life! He is still the avid "sportsman" today. And your
memories of
Tate
Woods are classic... I was thinking of having a page called
"Lisle's first kisses" devoted only to those
stories of first kisses that happened in Lisle. Hmmm. I'll
have to
think about that.
I'll never forget one time when us kids were sitting on
our bikes right in front of your house. All of a sudden
your dad comes running out of your house and jumps into
his car...
He
would
then
turn
on
a flashing
blue light that sat on his dashboard. Then he would drive
like crazy through town, beeping his horn, on his way to
the fire station. He was almost Godlike to me! When I was
ten, there was no cooler aspiration than to someday be "Joe
Garbe The Fireman!" In
fact,
we
used to race
uptown on our bikes when that big "fire
call" siren would
go off. (Click here to hear
the siren.) We would pretend
to be those "fire guys" with the blue
lights.
We would ride so fast and I would be making "beeping" sounds
with my mouth as I flew down Main Street. I'm sure people
thought we were nuts! Oh yeah... We were.
Great hearing
from you Mark! Say hello to the family
and God bless.)
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Pat Carson
11/17/05
Although
I think I have read everything on your site, I don't
recall ever
hearing the Martin Gas Station mentioned. When I saw some
of the recent photos of a gas station that was across from
the Congo Church, I remembered it.
In the very early 1960's our church youth group went on
a "Road Rally" (I think that's what it was called).
There were clues hidden all over town and you drove from
one place to the next based on the clues. The last place
would be where the party was, etc. Well, the only clue
I remember was the following:
" A local citizen, a well known gas
He goes to church, but not to mass"
One of the guys in our church group was Mike Martin (no
relation to the gas station). So we of course knew where
to go to find that clue.........the Martin gas station
on Ogden!!!!!!!
Now if I could only remember what I did yesterday !
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Martin
J. Bullis
11/16/05
WOW…the
memories came flooding back…. I moved to Lisle in
68’ and aside from a 10 stint in Tampa I have remained
in the area. Does anyone remember the Dog and Suds on Rt.
53? They had the best root beer and chili dogs….or
the old St. Joan of Ark church…..when I was a kid
we would climb the bell tower and ring the bell……..keep
up the good work….great site
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The
Remembering-Lisle detectives at work.
The
following is a series of emails between myself (Michael
Petry)
and former Lisle-ites Sherry (Lockett) Ligeski, Paul
Petry, Bob Thompson and Pam Rice Rodkey.
It illustrates the "fun" we have playing
detective
with some of the images we come accross here at Remembering-Lisle.com.
By the way, Sherry is the daughter
of our beloved Main Street School secretary Mrs. Lockett!
Sherry (Lockett) Ligeski Wrote:
Hi Mike,
I wrote you awhile ago and you asked if I had any
pictures of my dad's old Phillips 66 gas station on Ogden
Ave next to the cemetary. I finally found one, but also
found several old slides of Lisle in among my mom's stuff.
I'm going to try to attach the whole folder along with
this note. I've never done this before, only attached single
pictures, so if this doesn't work, let me know and I'll
try something different. If you're able to use any, go
for it; I know a lot of the pictures are bad.
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Behind
the old Phillips 66 gas station (my dad, Harry
Lockett, washing our car!) -- early 50's |
1960s snowfall. Looking out on Ogden Ave |
1960s
snowfall-2 |
When I found the picture of the old station, it made
me think of a funny story. Remember how the carnival used
to come to Lisle and set up right across from the playground
at Main Street School? My girlfriend, Barb Rittgarn, and
I were collecting pop (not soda!) bottles to turn in at
Economy Foods for money to get a few rides at the carnival.
After we'd walked as far as we were allowed, we still only
had enough money for about 1 ride each. Suddenly, while
sitting on my front porch trying to figure out where else
to scour, we spotted CASES and CASES of empty bottles behind
my dad's gas station! Bonanza!!! We were probably getting
ready to make our second trip 'downtown' with the wagon
loaded with empty bottles, when my Uncle Floyd came behind
the station and saw us. Wow! Was he mad! My dad came back
to see what the commotion was all about. We explained to
him what we were doing and he calmed down Uncle Floyd!
We had no idea that they had to turn the bottles back in
to their
supplier! We put the bottles back, they gave us each
$1.00 and off we went to the carnival -- 4 rides each!!!
Ahhhh - the Good Ol' Days!
Keep up the good work. It's so much fun to see what's
new!
Sincerely,
Sherry (Lockett) Ligeski
Sherry (Lockett) Ligeski Wrote:
Date: 2005/11/08
Tue AM 09:56:46 EST
To: lisle@cox.net
Subject: Great new pictures!
Hi Mike,
Love your newest addition to the website of the new/old
pictures! What a treasure! When you live there and all
these changes keep happening, sometimes
you just forget what certain things used to look like! Other times, as you
walked into town, changes would just suddenly 'slap you
in the face'. I'm sure, after
being gone for 4 years now, we would really notice the changes now! Ahh, 'progress'?!??
I particularly loved the old picture of the G & S store. I don't
remember that particular store, but I DO remember the picture of Frank and Hazels
behind it!!! I can remember once in awhile on hot Saturday nights, my mom and
dad and my Aunt Gladys & Uncle Floyd (Hodgkins - the 'original' owner (that
I remember, anyway!) of the old Phillips 66 Gas Station next to the cemetary)
would take my brother and I over to Frank & Hazels for a Saturday night supper
of bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwiches! Wow! Stepping into that cool air from
the heat outside and the smell of .... what? stale beer? Who knows, but to a
kid, it was pretty darned cool to be there with all the 'grown-ups'!
Hope you got all the pictures I sent. I don't know if any are usable,
or not.
Sherry (Lockett) Ligeski
lisle@cox.net wrote:
Hi Sherry!
You bet I got them!
I received them when I was in the middle of putting the "Then & Now" page
together.
I'm sorry I havn't been able to get your stuff on yet.. They're really wonderful
and I want to see them on the page soon... I try to sneak back and forth between
my real job and this quiet obbsession I have called a web site. I wish I had
more time...Hmm. Hey... Do me a favor would you? Take a look at this photo I've
attached... Is this the old Phillips 66 when it stood next to the
graveyard???
I have some other photos that I would like you to see. I need you to confirm
a few things before I publish them.
Sherry (Lockett) Ligeski Wrote:
Date: 2005/11/09 Wed AM 09:20:57 EST
To: lisle@cox.net
Hi Mike,
I just love checking your website! By the way, in
the note I wrote to you, I said the last name of my aunt and uncle was Hodgkins
-- ooops! It was Hodgson! Aunt Gladys was my dad's sister.
Re. this picture - I'm not quite sure what to make of it. It looks like
the old 66 station, but where are the gas pumps??? And I've never seen a car
parked in front of it like that before. At first I thought it was a REALLY old
picture of the station, but I can't figure out the houses behind it either. Our
house should have been the one you can just see a tiny bit of on the left, but
the white one to the right looks like ours after Mom and Dad moved it back and
put an addition on the front. So - if that's our house, then what is the one
you can see to the left? I'm confused! When Mom wakes up, I'll show her and see
if she can figure it out.
Happy webbing! Lisle@cox.net wrote:
Sherry,
But is that the building that the Phillip's 66 station
occupied?
Oh... And here is another Phillip's 66 picture that was
sent in by our friend and Current Lisle guy Bob Thompson.
I think this picture was taken around 1977 or '78.
Sherry
(Lockett) Ligeski Wrote:
Hi Mike,
I sent those two pictures you'd sent me on to my brother, Walt. He confirmed
that the building to the left of what was the old gas station was our house and
the building to the right was Aunt Gladys and Uncle Floyd's house. We also agreed
that the poor old station never looked so horrible or, as Walt put it, grotesque!
Could you make out what the sign said? Even after zooming in on it, I still couldn't
make it out.
Walt loved the picture of Dad and Dale! Thanks again.
Sherry
Then an email from my brother Paul that used to work at Phillips 66 on
Main & Ogden.
RE: Photo
From left to right: Dale Rice & Harry Lockett (D&H "66")
The photo (above is of Dale Rice & Harry Lockett) and looks like it was taken
when
they
still
had
the
station across from the Congregational Church, just west of the Lisle Cemetary,
before
they
moved
to the NE corner of Ogden Avenue and Main Street.
The phone number on the truck (a 1956 Willys Jeep FC150, I believe) is "WOoodland
8 - 387_". I cannot make out the last number. Back then, all the Lisle phone
numbers started out with the prefix "WOodland" 8, 9, or 4, i.e.: 968,
969, 964.
Harry passed away a few years ago (He was the husband of Mrs. Lockett, the beloved
Main Street School secretary).
Dale is still alive and well, as far as I know.
Saw his daughter, Pam, at my HS reunion a couple of years ago.
For more details, see my letter in Remembering Lisle about the Norman Oil pic.
Love you Michael.
~ Paul
PS: Here are some additional photos of that model Willy's jeep.
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Then an email from Pam Rice Rodkey to Paul Petry (who had sent
the photo to her)
From:
PamiRodkey
Subject: Photo of my Dad, Dale Rice and Harry Lockett, his business partner
Paul, I am pleasantly amused that this old photo of my
Dad and Harry prompted so many e-mails from various classmates. That phone
number on
the truck is WO8-9874, my parents still have their original number of
WO8-48(**), my Aunt, Imogene Beals still has her original number also
which is WO8-95(**). The memories the truck brings back is that whenever
my Dad
would call the house from the gasoline station he would use a signal of
the phone just ringing once. This was because the station phone was a
pay phone. We then were to call me Dad down at the station right away.
That meant we could not tied up the line at the house for hours. Thank
you for the memories.
Pam Rice Rodkey
From: Sherry Ligeski
After looking
and LOOKING at that picture (above of the station),
I'm still confused; Mom is, too. It almost looks like it's
two different
pictures taped
together. I can't make out the sign but maybe that's
the key to the whole thing, along with the date you
think the
picture was taken. Yes, that's the old station. Maybe
it became something else after Dad and Dale moved
to the other
station on Ogden and Main -- I just don't remember.
If that's the case, our house would be the one to the
left
that you can only see a little bit of. The house to
the right would be the house that my Aunt Gladys and
Uncle
Floyd built. I know our old house was used for a 'burn
down' practice drill for the Lisle Fire Dept. after
all that land was sold to the Bank of Lisle. At that
point
we were living behind the congregational church and
I left for the day because I couldn't stand to see our
old place
go up in flames -- just a creepy feeling.
Thanks to all of you that contribute
to this page! Visitors from the USA and around the
world are
visiting daily and, thanks to you, are feeling a little
bit of Lisle again.
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Pat Carson
11/5/05
Hello again,
Always so much fun to visit your website.
Kelly's Shoe Store was a shoe REPAIR store. The old cobber
would put on new heels, etc. That's when people didn't
own dozens of pairs of shoes.
Also,
I haven't thought about him in many, many years but.......there
used to be a guy named Gary that rode his bike all around
Lisle. We referred to him as Gary ah chee. I don't know
it that was some form of his name or what. The thing that
was so weird was that his bike had a STEERING WHEEL instead
of handlebars. I would guess that when I was in high school
he was in his 30's or 40's. He was around forever so I
guess we just kind of accepted him. I'm sure people made
fun of him but I can't say I ever saw or heard anyone.
The Wachowski brothers (Danny, Chuck and Bruno) always
treated him normally.
The best part of your site is the more I go back, the more
I remember........
Thanks for the memories.
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?
10/18/05
I have visited the Remembering Lisle website and want
to commend you on the content. It's very interesting
to see the town's past history.
The
reason I am writing this is to keep you abreast of
the latest happenings in downtown if you are not already
aware. Along with the plan to narrow Main Street, the
village has contacted many if not all of the residents
of Garfield Ave and those residents just to the west
on Route 53 (east side of 53). The village would like
to purchase these homes?
The
village currently has bought 4 of the homes: 4711,
4716, and 4712 Garfield. Also the white ranch house
on the corner of Garfield and Burlington has been purchased.
When asked about the village's plans for the ranch
house and 4712 Garfield, the village thought that the
homes would be razed and the lot filled much like the
old hall site. The village manager did say that he
wasn't sure of the timeline. He also said that he wasn't
exactly sure if the homes would be razed since it hadn't
been discussed and agreed upon.
I'm
not sure of the final plan for this area. But, the
purchase appears to follow the Lacota plan.
Is
this part of development and a better Lisle? I'm not
too sure. I'm not one to stand in front of all progress,
but I am against wiping away a whole neighborhood or
history as was the case with the old village hall.
Also, the "historic house (that) sat directly
north of the school" (4722 Garfield) that you
mention on one of the webpages is in danger. This danger
is biting after the home was "saved" in the
early 80's and moved to it's present location.
After
many years of limbo due to the village's many plans
for this area, some residents in this area are relieved
that things are moving along; though not all are happy.
Many feel this is an opportunity to get out from under
the dark cloud that the village has left this neighborhood
in. It is still a shame that this village will lose
more of its history as well as a whole neighborhood.
I
have not been able to verify this, but I was told that
the first mayor of Lisle, Tom Malloy (sp?) lived at
4711 Garfield. Possibly more significant history that
may never be seen again.
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(R.L.:
I am so sorry to hear of your (and your neighborhood's)
impending destiny. It amazes me every day when
I hear all the new reasons the "Village" gives
for being able to take control of people's private
property or the quality of the surrounding areas.
It's hard to watch a town's roots to the past snapped out of the ground
forever.
This historic house sat directly north of Main Street school for years.
It has been moved and sits today preserved behind "old" Lisle
in the Garfield neighborhood.
It's looking like this house and area are going to be next on "The
Village" chopping block.)
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Shirlee Jecmen
Lisle, IL
10/27/05
Michael: Thank
you so much for such an entertaining look at Lisle, then/now.
As
a new bride, my husband/I moved into unincorporated
Lisle (Rte 53 & 61st Street area) back in 1964. Our
property is within the Lisle post office area, the Lisle
Library District area, the Lisle/Woodridge Fire Department
area, but Woodridge grade school and DG high school districts.
Our son, born in 1966, went to St. Joan of Arc and our
daughter went to Goodrich & Jefferson Jr. High. Both
attended DG North high school.
My first memories of
our area was 6 houses on farm land with Woodridge being
a corn field, where Summerhill Drive/Rte
53 now exist. Driving my husband every day to the "Burlington
Northern" train (only train consistently on time
according to my husband), I remember NO stoplights at
53/Maple, only a 4-way stop! Also no stoplights going
east/west on Maple. Boy, we REALLY thought we lived in
the boon docks! My widowed mother (who lived in Cicero)
cried because she thought she would never see us anymore
since we lived sooooo far away!
I remember the old/original
frame St. Joan of Arc church with wooden wall basement,
leaded glass windows, radiators
-- how very special it was in the 1960/70s. But it had
to be torn down because it was a fire-hazard -- too bad
we didn't realize then historic buildings are "special" and
can be renovated into safe buildings, as currently is
being done with historic buildings in Chicago/Springfield/Bloomington,
etc. Hopefully more/more citizens will stand up for renovations
to keep historic buildings.
Our property had its
own well and septic field and we were told (in the
60s when we moved to this specific
area) that ALL of DuPage County would be off well/septic
within 20 years -- well, let's see, it is 2005, we still
operate our septic field and last year we were required
to seal our "contaminated" water well and get
on Village/Lake Michigan water -- due to the TCE contamination
by Lockformer. We approached the Village about sanitary
sewers at the time they were putting in the water main,
and the Village said that they would not be putting in
sewers in the foreseeable future -- our area was too
hilly and it would entail pumping stations to remove
the sewerage. Therefore, in our lifetime we do not expect
to be serviced by the Village for sanitary waste, but
most likely incorporated into the Village during the
next 10 years.
We love our property,
which still has a "country" feel
with no sidewalks, no curbs, no streetlights and intend
to stay until we cannot financially afford to live here
any more, since our real estate taxes are 8 times what
they were back in the 60s, even with a Senior Exemption.
Thanks for the memories!............Jecmen Family
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Jacquie
Wurth Hope Chapman
10/27/05
I
have been enjoying this site for awhile now, but
looked at the old coffee
shop photos for the first time today. I worked there
as my first job when I was 15. I earned $1.00 an
hour and
thought that was a good some of money. It was not
always easy work. Laura was really my boss and helped
me learn
a lot. I do remember her daughter, but I think she
was a few years younger than me. I remember Irv but
he did
not seem to do much. Laura was a very hard worker.
One of my biggest memories of her was when we started
writing
letters to local boys who were in the service and
in Vietnam. I know they took a photo of us and it was
in the paper
which of course was a big deal to me. I also remember
her Italian beef sandwiches. They were probably the
best I’ve
ever had since. I left the coffee shop to work at
Garys drug store before it opened. I went from $1.00
to $1.75
which was a fortune! My name is Jacquie Wurth Hope
Chapman and my dad was the police chief from 1962-
1979.
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Mary
Widuch
10/26/05
HI,
I dont know who the author of the article about Lisle being haunted is, but I
wanted to say it is very well written. .I live In the neighborhood North of
Benet, I went to Benet for High School, and I grew up played in Hitchcock woods.
I really enjoyed reading about the areas and stories I have been around my
whole life. I just wanted to comment that yes, the kids at Benet are interested
in the ghost stories. Most of the teachers have stories about sightings and
I remember begging them to tell us about them in class. I also remember sneaking
up to the fourth floor of Benet hall as almost all the students at Benet have
done (shhh, don't tell Father Jude!)
I just wanted to thank whoever wrote this article, I found it very entertaining
to read.
(R.L.:Wow!!
Thank you Mary! BTW, did you ever see any strange stuff around where you
lived?? Just thought I'd ask since you lived right near the "ground zero"
for reports.. Hmmm.)
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Riley Purcell
10/25/05
I just got this
web site and was taken back to my childhood. I grew up
in Lisle and have a long family history there.
My grandfather
had a farm where the Jewel store is. He had a gas station
and tavern (Riley's) at 53 and Maple on the Jewel corner.
My family home was on Riverview Drive behind the Jewel
store. My grandparents lived in the big white farm house
that was moved to Riverview Drive in 1985.
I worked for the Lisle-Woodridge Fire District from 1977
when I statrted part time until 2002 when I had to take
a disability pension as a full time Lieutenant. I am now
living in the Upper Penninsula of Michigan with my wife
and kids.
Keep this site growing! If I can ever help with information
(maybe even pictures) let me know.
Thanks,
(R.L.:
Riley! Yes we could use your help! Pictures with brief
descriptions are the best. But stories are great too.
We (and I think I speak for many Lisle-ites around the
nation and world) would love to have you contribute!
Contact us any time.)
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Sandra.Arendt
10/19/05
I
have great memories of Sutter’s, a place where “every
night was New Year’s Eve”, but I remember a
beautiful contemporary building with mirrored walls --
dining room upstairs, lounge downstairs. Friends of mine
were long-time entertainers there. I still have an unopened
bottle of Sutter’s Champagne!
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Nancy Forst
(Couch)
Georgia
10/11/05
My
name is Nancy Couch, it used to be Nancy Forst. I lived
in Lisle from
1959 or 60 through 1970. I should have graduated from high
school in 1972 but we moved to Plainfield, Illinois. Does
anyone remember when the circus used to come to the
field behind the old high school and the grade school?
I can remember watching them set up from my bedroom window.
My father was the Scoutmaster for Troop 108 that met at
the Methodist Church on Ogden Avenue where the totem pole
was (I hope it is still there as it was dedicated to him).
Does anyone remember climbing the old Mulberry tree behind
the church? or What we used to call the old Indian Mound
that used to be back in the field past the church where
there are now apartments I believe? I have been in contact
with a few people over the years from my older neighborhood
on Inverness Road.
Also:
The totem pole is on Maple if you are going toward Downers
Grove it is on the left past the Methodist Church. I can
remember helping to carve that when I was younger. It has
all the ranks of scounting on one side with the Eagle with
spread wings at the top and the back says Troop 108. I really
hope that it is still there as there was a concrete bench
at the base that was dedicated to my father. We as kids used
to call this hill that was to the left of the church and
behind the apartments that are now there past the church
a hill (the Indian Mounds) it was fun exploring and looking
around there. I am sure that they really weren't Indian Mounds
but that was what we called it. I got this site from one
as a matter of fact. Diz (Val Smith) do you remember all
the good times
we used to have? Would love to hear from any of you down
here in Georgia.
Hey Patti thanks for sending me this site.
(R.L.:
Hey Nancy! Check out these pictures of the totem pole. It
is still located where it always was. I didn't see a bench
when I was taking these shots but maybe it is nearby??? Anyway,
thanks for the letter and bringing up the "'ol totem pole!"
Great stuff!)
Here's a picture looking east toward the infamous
"totem pole."
That's Maple on the right. |
Here's
a view looking north west from Maple. You can
see the roof of the church in the background.
It hasn't changed a bit. |
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BJ Gregory
10/04/05
Re: "Send us Your Daughters"
I
just read your latest installment from Bill Holub.
The last picture is
indeed quite a find. I'm thinking that the picture is
from earlier than the 60's though. We moved to Lisle
in late
1964 and before the Jewel was built, there was a tavern
on the north side of Maple between 53 and Riverview.
It was called Riley's and I THINK that it was owned
by Riley Reidy. If my memory is correct, they tore
it down
to build the Jewel. It is not in this picture, so I
thinking that it was taken prior to Riley's being built.
BTW-
You would
not be able to see Smitty's because it would be to
your right just outside of the picture. I'm
going to go out on a limb and say that this picture was
taken in the mid 50's. After wasting half a day researching
this, I find that the map above the picture still shows
RT66 where I55 is now. I55 was built in stages, with the
first part from Gardner to Darien built in 1958. You will
also see no mention of any Interstates on this map. They
were all constructed starting in the early to mid50's.
I must say that I love your site. We seem to share an
obsession with all things gone but not forgotten. Back
before real Lisle became nouveau Lisle. Once Green Trails
was annexed, Lisle just became Naperville East.
I'll never forget the first time I heard the words "Lisle
Hilton". A Hilton hotel in Lisle? That's almost
an oxymoron.
Judging from you latest posting, I assume that you are
already back in town for your reunion.
Looking forward to what you find this time. It has become
my daily habit to check your website to see if anything
is new.
I may have to name you Mayor of "Lisle gone by".
Keep digging!
(R.L.:
BJ.. Thanks so much for your input... Isn't that the
greatest picture? And I think your right.. "Obsession"
seems to be a good word for it. Please! I know I need
help!)
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Pat Carson
10/9/05
RE: BJ Gregory letter above.
BJ Gregory is
indeed correct regarding Rileys Tavern. It was there in
the early 60's. When I was in high school, some of the
kids went there at lunch time for burgers, etc. Also, there
was a gas station on the same corner. I seem to remember
Rileys being behind and BELOW the gas station, they were
attached somehow. And yes, it would be out of the picture
frame. Also, in the early 60's, I believe there was a National
Tea store on the North East corner of Maple and 53 before
the new Jewel was built.
Does anyone remember Jerry's Food Shop on Maple? It was
a grocery store but in the back was a horseshoe shaped
counter where you could get the best burgers and chili.
Half the school went there for lunch in the early 60's.
In the 50's, it was called Erma's Chicken Basket. The building
is still there, just east of the little strip mall where
Dunkin Donuts is.
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Jimmy
'T-bone' Kelly
Dublin, Ireland
10/03/05
RE: King's Palace
wow.
some story to find. i was a busboy there in the 70's.
gussie was a
year older than me, everyone loved him, and i sold
randys band guitars n stuff years later when i worked
at the short-lived
lisle music center. the boys were each legends in their
own right, i watched georgie beat up the gym teacher
in high school. they were always good to me, as was
their
hard-working mom. may she rest in peace.i learned so
much from her. sam was larger than life, and the whole
kings
palace era left an indelible impression on me. brilliant.
thanks.
(R.L.:
T-Bone! Yours is probably the most entertaining letter yet!!
I'm not sure why... Maybe it's the part about Georgie???
Anyway, you'll be happy to know that the mystery of where
Sam Sutter is located has finally been resolved. Myself,
along with longtime Lisle-ite Kathy (Buss) Keeler tracked
him down at his amazing restaurant / bar called BRASS in
South Barrington .
I felt like I was shaking hands with a
legend! He still gets on Mic and entertains.. Talks with
guests
at there tables and makes you feel like you're more special
than you really are. His place is the epitome of cool...
He is truly a classic!
Go to BRASS... Talk with Sam and you'll
know what I mean! They really don't make 'em like this any
more.)
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Yours truly with Kathe (Buss) Keeler and the man
himself... After all these years... Sam Sutter!
Click here to
read more about King's Palace. |
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David
A. Fugett
Lisle Sr. High, Class of '80
9/30/05
Great site. Brings
back a lot of memories. I saw the letter sent in by Ms.
Homan and I thought this might be a good opportunity to
thank her.
I wrote a paper in her American Government class my
Senior year. I don't remember what the paper was on,
but I remember she gave me an 'A' on it. More than that,
she wrote some nice comments about my writing and suggested
I think about becoming a lawyer. Her comments and suggestion
on a career stuck with me all through college. I had
no idea what I would do when I graduated (with a degree
in Communication), I had never spoken to a lawyer in
my life, but Ms. Homan was a teacher that I really enjoyed
and respected (even though I think I only had her for
that one class) and the kind words she wrote to me on
that paper really made an impact. Five years later, I had just graduated from a small
college, I was married for less than a year, and I was
dirt poor with a massive student loan debt. I had absolutely
no idea what I was going to do with the rest of my life.
Ms. Homan's suggestion to me, written on the title page
of that paper I wrote in American Government class, was
the motivation for me to take the Law School Aptitude
Test and send in an application to The University of
Georgia School of Law. I've been practicing law now for
16 years. I'm a partner in a law firm in Pensacola, Florida,
and I defend hospitals, nursing homes, doctors and nurses
in malpractice suits. For years now, I have been using Ms. Homan as an example
of how teachers can have a huge impact on the lives of
their students and never even know it. It would be nice
if I could finally tell her now. If you can, please forward
this e-mail to her with my thanks. And feel free to publish
this letter on your site as my public thanks to an outstanding
teacher who really made a difference. And thanks again for the web site. Ever since I started
having children of my own, I've been searching for a
particular type of neighborhood to raise them in, and
could never quite find it. It wasn't until 1990, when
I came back for my 10 year High School reunion and drove
back to my old house in The Meadows, when I realized
- that's the neighborhood I was searching for. I wanted
to raise my kids in The Meadows in Lisle, Illinois. Unfortunately,
that wasn't possible, and my kids are creating their
own memories here in Pensacola that I hope will be as
fond as mine. But it's nice to travel back in time a bit through your
web-site and re-live some of those old memories for myself.
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Pat
Carson
9/27/05
VFW:
The
VFW was used for many things prior to being remodeled
into Kings Palace. I remember in the mid 50's we had
our Girl Scout " Father and Daughter Dinner" there.
Most of all, I remember in the early 60's, the VFW
was used as a teen club a couple of times each month.
We would often have live bands (sometimes a group of
local high school guys including Harry Nelson and Jerry
Smrt) One special singer we had was an Elvis impersonator
named Ral Donner who had several records out. Now he
was really ahead of his time as Elvis was very popular
at the time. In the 1981 movie "This is Elvis",
Ral Donner was the voice of Elvis narrating it.
In the upstairs hall where we had the teen dances (we
were NOT allowed downstairs by the bar) there was just
a small bathroom for the girls, maybe 6' x 12' with
one toilet in it. Boy, we could fit 10 girls in there
with no trouble, fixing our hair and makeup.
Benet
Academy:
Prior
to becoming Benet Academy, it was called St. Procopius
High School (all boys). They were definitely rivals
to the guys at Lisle High. The college was St. Procopius
College (also all boys). I remember the college would
have "mixers" (dances) every so often that
some of us brave senior girls would attend. They
had a neat telescope at the college. You had to climb
up
some very narrow metal stairs to get to it, but the
view was fabulous. I can still remember seeing the
rings around Saturn.
LCHS:
I had to laugh
when I reviewed the Classmate Message Board. I don't think
you'll get many messages from the classes of 1949-1957.
The first class to graduate was in 1958. I have sent a
picture of the first person (Robert Beach) to receive a
diploma from Lisle High.
The second picture is of the teachers in 1959. Boy,
I can remember the smell when you walked past the "Teachers
Smoking Lounge".
Also attached is a picture of Mrs Shannon. The 1959 yearbook
was dedicated to her. Not only was she a high school teacher
and the librarian, but she had previously been a grade
school teacher at Schiesher School. I remember I had her
as my fifth grade teacher the first year that Schiesher
School opened. I'm sure many students will remember her
either from grade school or high school. I can still recall
her deep southern drawl.
Love your site.
(R.L.:
Thanks for the corections AND the submissions Pat!)
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Paul
Naprstek
Lisle High School '74
9/24/05
My
brother David tipped me off to your site, and I've
spent a lot of time when I was supposed to be doing
other things combing its nooks and crannies.
Keep up the good work.
In
case anybody's wondering what happened to me, I'm an
architect in New York City.
It was great reading everybody's letters.
I have messages for two of the writers. To Gary Walkup:
Please tell your father I have often thought of him as
one of my most formative role models as Scoutmaster of
Troop 563. Thank him for me.
To Mrs. Homan: I learned
a great deal from your history classes, both in Junior
High and at LSHS. I still remember that saying you
posted on your bulletin board -- except as I see it,
it goes "All that is necessary for the triumph of
evil is for good men to vote Republican!"
(R.L.:
Figures...)
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Dianne
Sanders Schroll
Plainfield, Illinois
9/23/05
I
attended Lisle schools from third grade (Main Street
School) to High School (class or 1964)
I love reading your web site especially about the old days.
I lived at the corner of Devon Avenue and Burlington for all that time. Growing
up in Lisle was great. You knew everyone and they knew you.
I lived next door to the Zelany's. Joe had a barber shop but then went to work
for the post office.
I think the garbage company that picked up garbage was Rotts
Waste Company.
I worked at the Lisle Dairy Queen on Ogden (Or was it Dairy Castle?) for my
sophomore, junior and senior years. It was the happening place during the summer
months. It was owned by Mrs. Konder who lived just up the street. I don't remember
how much the ice cream was but your could get 7 hamburgers for a dollar. You
could get hamburgers, hot dogs, fish, steak sandwiches, fries. You could get
root beer floats, shakes, malts, sundaes and banana splits. It was a great
place to work; you could eat anything you wanted. They had both vanilla and
chocolate ice cream. Some of the people who worked there included Mrs. Konder's
children, Bonnie, AJ. and Mary.
AJ used to sneak out of his house after midnight and ride his horse (which
he kept in his back yard) to Downers Grove and/or Naperville. Barb Kubes also
worked there. Mrs. Konder's sister was Ann Dooley. At that time I think half
of Lisle was related in one way or another. Mrs. Konder died within the past
year or so
All my brothers/nephews attended Lisle schools. Do you remember Mike, Don or
Duane Oblander? Their mom worked as a waitress at Tree Gables.
Do you remember the original owner of the bowling alley? The Simons, who lived
on Devon Street, (they later moved to Naperville) built the bowling alley.
They had four daughters,
Linda was my age and now lives in Woodridge.
I know the Cosinos have been mentioned in several letters. Mary, the youngest
daughter, went to school with me and worked with me on several of our high
school reunions. After school, she worked at the Bank in Lisle. She lived the
rest of her live in Lisle (she died a few years ago) and he son Brent Owens
attended school in Lisle. Of course he went to the new High School as the high
school as Mary and I went to what is now the junior high.
I really enjoyed hearing from Mrs. Homan; remember the intercontinental ballistic
missiles?
And any one who attended high school surely remembers Mr. Jones. He is now
retired and living is Oswego.
And everyone had Miss Schiesher either as a teacher or later as principal.
A great time to be a kid!
P.S.
One of the letters I read on your web site suggested a big reunion. What a
great idea!
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Maureen?
9/17/05
(In
responce to the removal of Cinert's bridge)
That bridge was the means of getting to my dentist in the medical center building
for years, saved many steps and danger walking on rte 53! I'm sad to see it
gone!
(R.L.:
I so agree! It's sad to think of all we have lost
due to the threat of being held liable and being
sued... Cinert's bridge and what it brought to
the area will definetly be missed.)
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A
Benet student
9/17/05
Hello,
I'm a senior at Benet Academy. I was doing (or rather,
not doing) homework when I stumbled across your site.
I highly enjoyed your descriptions of Benet and its
atmosphere.However, you're actually wrong about the
students not knowing nor caring about the ghosts. It's
quite the opposite - literally everyone knows about
it and is fascinated by it. Going up to the fourth
floor of St. Joseph's Hall is always an exciting time
simply because we know the history it carries. Every
time I go up there, the room with the statues still
scare the crap out of me.
You should go back there to see the REAL attic of Benet... and go on the roof.
That attic is the most frightening room I have ever seen. Doors lead to 15
foot drops, windows to nowhere... it's dark, moldy, old, and frightening. Also,
make sure you see the room with the modern art in it. It further adds intrigue
to Benet.
Try
and coax Fr. Jude to let you down into the basement
of Benet Hall... I've been down there once... it's
much crazier than the attic. Also, try and get into
the tunnels. Yes - They exist!
Keep
up the good work.
Yours
Truly,
A Benet Student.
(R.L.: Yes, that attic is truly amazing. I didn't get
a chance to actually get on the roof though... We will be visiting Benet in
October and we'll try to get some pictures of the tunnels.)
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Anonymous
9-12-05
I
came across your web site purely by accident, but admit
to spending the better part of an evening enjoying
it.
I grew up on Winchester in the old section of Lisle and also recall as a kid
many trips to the back room of Hankinson's Lumber Store (on Ogden just west
of Winchester) to look for scraps of wood to build stuff with. Unlike Home
Depot, the scraps were free for the taking.
I'm sure you've heard of Yender's farm by Ogden and Yender. Well on the farm
they had a small grocery store. I would go there with my mother and she would
tell Mrs. Yender what she wanted. Mrs. Yender had a pole of sorts with which
she retrieved items from upper shelves. Mom would pay for the groceries and
later Mr.Yender would deliver them in an old 1940's panel truck.
I attended kindergarten class in 1954 at the VFW long before it became King's
Palace. My teacher was Miss Allen. From there I did 1st and 2nd grade in St.
Joan's attic behind the church. Nowhere in your writing did I see you mention
the old fire chute that was on the second floor. It was great! The new school
was built when I entered 3rd grade, largely due to the "Our Lady of the
Angels" school fire. That made everyone realize what a fire trap the old
school was. Father Frederick Beller was the pastor and always came to the classroom
to pass out report cards. He would peruse your grades and give a real stern
look when he called your name, but would break into a smile when you came up
front if your card was good.
My brother worked during high school ( 1955-59) behind the counter at the coffee
shop. I guess that's why he knew almost everyone in town. I left Lisle in 1962
before there was an A&P, but do remember Hansen's IGA and Melton's Dry
Goods. As kids we went to Reynold's Drug Store because they sold the best penney
candy. Mrs. Roch worked behind the counter and we could get a good size bag
of candy for a dime.
In the summer we liked to walk the tracks and watch the boys skinny dip in
the quarry. I have fond memories of growing up in Lisle and I'm sure if I dig
through some stuff could come up with some old pictures to e-mail to you.
Look forward to reading more on your web site in the future.
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Robyn
1973 to 1987
9/5/05
I
remember the night King's Palace burned. My mom woke
me and my brothers and we watched out my bedroom window.
It was a sight I'll never forget, although I wasn't
much more than eleven years old. We could see the silhouettes
of the firemen on the extensions of the ladders from
the trucks, spraying water on the giant, roaring flames.
This was especially scary to me as my dad was one of
the firemen at the scene.
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Diane
Rychtarik Adamec
8/26/05
Ann's
Pantry was, indeed, owned by my Uncle Walker and Aunt
Ann Gamble. My grandmother (Ruby Carr) and Walker were
brother/sister and my mother, Wanda Carr, moved to
Lisle when she was a teenager and worked for them at
the Pantry. Later, she married my father, Joseph Rychtarik,
and after several years, they purchased Sevetsen's
(not 100% sure of the name) and Economy Foods was born.
During my high school years, we had several guys working
at Economy that you might remember: Dennis Knight,
John Witunski, Roland Jenkins, Bob Knight, Tim Harper
and others. Later, Bob Gihle also worked in the butcher
shop and held the record (during meatcutting contests
after 9 pm on Friday nights) of the fastest time in
cutting up a chicken. Seems to me it was under 45 seconds!!!
When we were kids in the 50's, we used to rollerskate down Main Street but
had to stop in a couple of places and walk over the gravel because the sidewalk
wasn't continuous along Main Street.
I remember one day in particular when one of my dad's hunting dogs got away
from me. The dog went straight to Main Steet. I heard a commotion and finally
found the dog in the lap of a customer in Adolph's barbershop. If you knew
Adolph, you knew that he just kept cutting hair like nothing strange had happened.
Dad always said his haircuts were complete when Adolph was done talking!!!
His wife, Anise, ran the beauty shop and did everyone's hair for prom.
Oh, and Ruth @ Ben Franklin. . .her last name was Kuttner.
This site is fabulous and although I rarely get back to Lisle, the fond memories
linger. For those of you involved in preserving the history of this wonderful
small town heritage--we thank you.
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Bob Thompson
Lisle, ILL.
8/17/05
Thanks for finding a great way to capture the past!
I remember Gary's Drugs had a comic book vending machine near the door. The
push slot took a nickel and dime, and the screw would turn and drop the comic
into the bottom. The comics were just 12 cents (early sixties) so there were
three pennies taped to the cover for change. My brother Tim, and I had accumulated
a large stack over the years.
Sometime during the mid 1970's, my mom decided to clean house and the comics
were history, but she was creative! We lived (I still do) in the Oakview subdivision,
and for Halloween she gave each kid some candy and (sob...) a comic. She gave
the older kids the Fantastic Four and Superman ones, and the little kids got
the Richie Rich, or Archies. She said one kid came back with his mask off so
she would give him another.
Keep up the great work on the website, you're sure to
trigger a lot more memories.
(R.L: Ok..
Now remember Bob... The next time you see comic books
selling on the "Antiques Road Show" for ten-thousand
dollars, just keep repeating to yourself... "I
love my mother... I love my mother..." and you
should be alright... Okay?
Bob!
These are exactly the types of letters we love
getting here at Remembering-Lisle. It's the simple
stuff like this that is so much fun to read! )
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Pat (Smith) Tranter
8/16/05
I graduated from Lisle Public school in 1949. Ann's
Pantry was a little restaurant across the street
from the school.
It was next to the post office. You could get a quick
bite to eat and penny candy. My first job was
at Ann's Pantry.
I sold candy on free outdoor movie night.
Graduation from Lisle school was always so much fun
because we got to do the Maypole Dance. Does anyone
remember the
Maypole dance?
I check this web site about once a month. I see names
of people I know. It is fun to read and also to know
that
these people are still around.
I will be traveling to Naperville and Lisle in September-October.
As usual, I plan on visiting my old stomping grounds.
I grew up on Williams Street and then my folks moved
up to Yackley Ave. when I started High School. Williams
street
is so changed now and the old house is gone. I played
with the Pearce kids by the railroad depot. The Scroggins
family
lived in the Depot. He was the Station Master. The
museum in the Depot is very nice.
(R.L:
Great letter Pat! I found some pictures you might
like. They're not the best quality but they're pretty interesting
all the same. Thank you for sharing with us!)
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Here's
the earliest known picture I could find of downtown
Lisle. It's probably around 1940. Ann's
Pantry can be seen on the
left. It was
owned
by Ann and Walker Gamble. They bought the store from
Anton Stupay in 1937, and sold it in '43. It then
went on to be a barber shop. |
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Here is an enhanced close-up of the same picture.
The arrow is pointing to the sign that reads "Ann's
Pantry." (Pretty cool huh?) |
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Here's
a great shot (looking south) of the Main Street
School playground in 1946. This shows the
annual
"May Fetes"
celebration
in full swing. I'm not sure what a "Fetes" is but
it looks like these kids are diggin' it!
(Not sure
if it has anything to do with the "Maypole" dance.)
Anyway, they eventually had to discontinue the annual
bash because the school's population grew too large
and they didn't want any excited mom's and dad's
fighting for seats. Any more of a crowd and they
could have had the first "Woodstock" on their hands!
Anyway...
Those
little
cowboy
outfits
look pretty nifty huh? |
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Diane Adamec
8/6/05
Rosie's last name was Hargus.
She frequented Main Street and always stopped in at Economy
Foods. I remember one time in particular when she came
in with several puppies tucked into her dress to keep them
warm. I'm pretty sure she walked out with some complimentary
dog food.
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Irene Krumm
7/28/05
I have been wanting so badly
to get to Lisle again but I am for sure going to go this
year or next. I know it has changed so much. I lived on
591 Front Street. I lived there from 1954- 1974. I think
you were not very far from me. I use to cross the St.Joan
of Arc field to get to Lisle town. I too remember crossing
the tracks to take a short cut into town. We do have the
best memories in Lisle!!! I bought candy from the Book
Nook. Bulls eyes, waxed mustaches,tongues,finger nails,
firesticks, lick-a-made, little waxed bottles filled with
sweet liquid, a roll of paper with dots stuck on it. Remember????
We always played kick the can in our neighbors yard. What
happened to the kids today we had so much fun when we were
kids. Well I better go I can talk forever. Thank You also
for replying. Your friend, Irene Krumm
I have 4 kids! Twin girls Cherie and Linda-31years old,
Dawn-30years old, Steve-25 years old.
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Linda Vaden
7/28/05
I'm trying to work and I can't
stop going back to your site! I just
love this!!! I came from a town of 6,000, (still 6,000
today), so I
really understand your love for your once small town. My
sister lives
on Chelsea and I live on 59th Street in The Meadows. I
love that
picture of The Meadows, but I just can't place it. It looks
like 59th
Street, but that is not the house that's on the corner.
I'm going to
study it tonight. I moved into new construction in what
is now called
"
The Meadows Edge" across the street from The Meadows
Swim and Tennis
Club. I really love Lisle. I can see why it has blossomed
as much as
it has. I'd love to find out more about The Meadows and
the land that I
live on. I heard that it was once a horse farm until I-355
came
through. I know the ppl behind us were not happy about
the houses being
built. I can understand why.
My children go to St. Joan of Arc. I take the train
to work from Lisle
Station, so all of your stories are of great interest
to me. I'm so
sorry to hear about all of the demolition that's been
going on. I knew
about the old City Hall. There were some ppl who were
working very hard
to stop it, and they'd gotten permission to put it on
hold, but by the
time they arrived, the inside had already been torn out.
It was too
late. They are tearing down houses on Front Street down
from the
Library. I heard that they want to put in a subdivision
there. They
can't just put in a few houses and let ppl have some
land. It's very
sad. When we moved to Lisle, we couldn't find an empty
lot for
anything. They are taking care of that. I know many of
the houses are
in bad shape, but I hate to see this old town get torn
down and rebuilt.
There is so much history to lose. What a shame about
St. Joan's
original church! I'd seen something about that before.
I guess it's
all called progress. Please keep the site going with stories and pictures.
I just love this!
I'm going to tell my sister and neighbors about it. You
did a great
job!!!!
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